Off-topic: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Outcry as relief food expires in Kenya Red Cross warehouse

[Maria Farrell]

Hi Alex,

Thanks for the link. It is of great concern, though I'm not sure it's a
close fit with NCSG's core issues. Is the connection that the US Red Cross
is a member of NCSG?

Sarah - we've not met, and I know an email to a discussion list is perhaps
not the most nuanced place to discuss these issues. However, I believe the
NCSG discuss list is not the venue for incendiary comments such as
"Population control?", which imply murderous intent on the part of NGOs in
developing countries. You are of course entitled to your personal view that
NGOs are ineffective or even iniquitous, but I do not see how that opinion
is constructive within this forum. What possible relevance does this have
for developing noncommercial input to ICANN's GNSO policy development
process?

I hesitate to confront this openly on-list, because of the almost
inevitable waste of time and effort that may ensue. However, when shared
lists fail to stay on-topic and distribute trollish comments, it drowns out
reasonable voices and signals to potential contributors that they will not
be heard. Think what we could accomplish on developing inputs to current
ICANN policy issues with the same resources.

So rather than a long, heated thread on a topic of high concern but low
relevance, can we please consider directing our efforts towards current,
real policy issues of importance to the NCSG?

Currently outstanding are requests for people to volunteer on the drafting
team for the charter on domain name locking and the UDRP, Joy's efforts to
draft a mission statement for the NCSG, calls for comments on the Draft
Integrated Issues Report on IDN Variant Issues Project, and a just-expired
request for individual NCSG responses on the JAS issue. We also have a
policy call next Monday, 16 Jan. For my part, the Nominating Committee
application period for leadership positions has recently opened, and
nonprofit candidates are badly needed - so that is an ongoing task of this
group to find senior nonprofit people and encourage them to get involved
with ICANN.

In short, we have a lot of real work to do.

Maria

On 13 January 2012 05:19, Sarah El Ebiary <sarahelebiary at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure how it is in Kenya, but doesn't the head of the Red Cross in
> the USA make an unconscionably high salary? I read it was upwards of half a
> million US dollars per year. When I read that, I vowed to be more careful
> about donating to disaster relief fundraisers and all charities that cannot
> be monitored or accountable penny for penny.
>
> Sometimes I feel like it's a huge scam.
> Haiti. Katrina. ASPCA. Etc.
>
> Unless my donations are going from my hand (or perhaps from a close friend
> or another family member's hand on the ground) directly to the mouths of
> the needy, then tragedies of waste such as this can certainly be avoided.
>
> Too bad...
>
> On Jan 12, 2012 8:24 PM, "Alex Gakuru" <gakuru at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:37 AM, warigia bowman <warigia at aucegypt.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, except the cu...
>
>
> Yeah right! But be sure not to tarnish the "very reputable organisation"
> on a blog post. DO NOT include adverse links to such a post - because if
> you do? And SOPA/PIPA pass, your entire blog site could be pulled down
> after they complain to the "relevant online Copyright/IP Authorities." So
> much free speech to expose basic human rights (food, clothes and shelter)
> injustices going forward, right?
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Sarah El Ebiary <
> sarahelebiary at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Popul...
>
>
> >>>
> >>> This is crazy. Why do you think this happened?
>
> My guess is as good as anyone's. Maybe the local initiative's success
> threatened their foodchain? Global fundraising system? Hence KILL! future
> prospects of all such local initiatives likes of: (re:
> http://www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/34256-kenyans4kenyans-kitty-raises-over-sh81million) ? That disrupt precious dollars from out there from percolating through
> an otherwise "properly established system"? Collected putting up an
> 'angelic' face as a tool to demand special protections by *everyone*
> (including on icann policies)? To put brakes on emergent, terrible,
> "Kenyans4Kenyans" model that diminishes their longstanding, global
> established brand as "the only ones who truly care" impression? Maybe the
> starving do not live at the NGO's "politically correct" dry Northern Kenya
> areas? Or releasing the food to the starving would have meant the problem
> is REALLY  getting solved therefore Kenyan could stop giving more food,
> more money? I have no idea what on earth motivated them to do such inhuman
> acts, but you bet we're pissed off with Red Cross!
>
> Today is among the worst days for *anyone* to dare shower Red Cross with
> traditional praises over here.
>
>
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