GAC-Board meeting in Brussels
Nicolas Adam
nickolas.adam at GMAIL.COM
Fri Mar 4 21:31:02 CET 2011
Thx
On 3/4/2011 9:49 AM, William Drake wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:28 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>
>> Would appreciate a report on your impressions.
>
> Wasn't expecting to be writing one and haven't had time, but ok.. I
> have a ton of work to do before leaving town Monday for two weeks, so
> this will be more a matter of sharing some impressions than a full and
> systematic report. But hopefully it’s useful nonetheless, and Avri
> and others who attended physically or remotely can add their thoughts
> as well. In addition, one imagines there will be some blogging on
> Circle ID and related sites as soon as people are able to digest the
> several hundred page transcript. In addition, in a couple days ICANN
> should be providing a report with the board’s assessment of the
> current state of play regarding areas of (dis)agreement with the GAC.
>
> Before the meeting, the GAC provided a “scorecard” (a somewhat
> revealing term) of its consensus positions on 12 new gTLD topics on
> which it was at odds with ICANN
> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/gac-scorecard-23feb11-en.pdf. The
> scorecard built on the GAC’s Cartagena communiqué and new member
> inputs, including the controversial US doc discussed here previously.
> The purpose of the meeting was to talk through the 12 and see on which
> the differences could be narrowed or reconciled. The hope was to take
> items off the table, leaving only the most difficult ones to be
> addressed by a “bylaws consultation” in SF. There the board could
> formally tell the GAC that it does not accept its advice on any
> irreconcilable items and would have to provide a rationale for its
> decisions.
>
> From the outset, both sides worked to establish a cooperative
> atmosphere and lots of nice words were exchanged etc. But there were
> clearly tensions percolating below the surface that would periodically
> bubble up in certain exchanges, which occurred with increasing
> frequency as we moved into the second day and spilled over into an
> unplanned meeting on the third morning. Several overarching problems
> became evident:
>
> First, there was a lot of mutual frustration about the process leading
> up to the meeting. Many in “the community” were miffed that the GAC
> had waited to formally put down its markers until to the 11th hour,
> when the launch of new gTLDs was thought to finally be imminent.
> Conversely, the GAC maintained that it had in fact been providing
> “advice” on its concerns since at least the March 2007 release of its
> new gTLD Principles, but that ICANN had simply chosen not to take this
> seriously. Irrespective of whether you think one or the other side is
> right about that, clearly there hasn’t been enough good communication
> and coordination and this disconnect shouldn’t have been allowed to
> fester.
>
> Second, each side seemed to feel that the other didn’t understand its
> constraints and procedures. On the one hand, board members would note
> that many parties had investors waiting impatiently and were facing
> financial challenges, that the community had spent years working on
> the Applicant Guidebook and forging difficult consensuses, and that
> people would find it difficult to accept this or that advice that ran
> counter to the AG or introduced additional delays. On the other hand,
> GAC members would argue that it’s just not possible for them to work
> in a different and quicker manner since they have various work
> responsibilities and participating in GAC is just one of these; and
> that they have to coordinate at each step of the way both internally
> with their relevant ministries and other actors, and then externally
> with each other.
>
> Third and relatedly, the two sides were differently enabled to engage
> in bargaining. The ICANN model involves putting the famous “good
> people” in board slots and giving them the latitude to make judgments,
> engage in on-site problem solving via break-out groups and other
> techniques, adapt their positions to forge compromises, etc. The
> government folks insisted they can’t work that way, they come with
> fixed consensus positions and then need to take each new bit from the
> other side back to their capitals and into the GAC for
> re-coordination. As such, they couldn’t give definitive statements of
> agreement to board counterproposals, which left some board members
> palpably frustrated. One might add that it also seemed clear the
> board was better prepared and more focused with respect to the
> substantive issues than many of its counterparts, which is not too
> surprising given their respective backgrounds, work responsibilities, etc.
>
> Fourth, there were clearly very different expectations about what
> happens next. The Board had announced in January that it expected to
> hold an official “bylaws consultation” in SF at which it presumably
> could announce its final conclusions on what GAC advice it was or
> wasn’t accepting with an eye to launching the round thereafter.
> Indeed, some members argued that this session meant that they were
> already in a bylaws consultation. Key GAC members said they regarded
> all this as premature and a bit offensive, i.e. as an effort to push
> toward closure and a launch without fully hearing the GAC out and
> taking its views on board. Accordingly, they announced they didn’t
> want SF to be labeled a formal bylaws consultation. This issue led to
> a lot of heated exchanges on the last morning, so much so that various
> speakers felt moved to say please let’s pull back from the brink and
> not end in acrimony, etc.
>
> Finally, there were of course significant substantive differences on
> the individual issues. Scanning the #ICANN twitter feed would give NC
> members a good sense of how at least some vocal observers viewed the
> GAC positions, which is to say, not too positively. Not being
> inherently and implacably anti-government, and recognizing that
> “community positions” can bear a substantial imprint of corporate
> power and self-interest, I guess my take on these would be a bit
> kinder and more mixed than some other folks’. Some of the GAC
> positions undoubtedly ranged from ill-considered to terrible, or
> seemed like state power grabbing or pure reflections of corporate
> lobbying. Some were just a bit muddled, maybe not fully thought
> through or of questionable ease of implementation etc. But some were
> also reasonable efforts to promote public or national interest
> objectives that I’d be astonished and sometimes annoyed for them not
> to advance. People can disagree about the balance between these and
> other aspects in any given instance…
>
> In any event, despite these tensions, it should be said that the
> meeting managed to make some significant progress on a number of
> specific points, and that overall the participants were able to come
> away seeing this as a constructive engagement on which to build.
> There was unquestionably some convergence and increased mutual
> understanding. The GAC communiqué, which I just forwarded to the
> list, reflects that feeling, and promisingly reiterates that GAC fully
> respects the Board’s right under the bylaws not to accept its advice.
> What it doesn’t say, but which must be weighing on a lot of minds, is
> that pushing toward co-regulation will entail a lot of risks for GAC
> members. I asked a few whether they were really prepared to be
> vetting hundreds of applications and for the heat they might take not
> only for opposing some but, by implication, accepting the others, and
> got rather downbeat responses. Not sure I’d want to be in their shoes…
>
> Turning briefly from process and atmosphere to substance, the
> methodology the board adopted was to assign each of the GAC proposals
> (some of which contained multiple issues/elements) one of three
> ratings: 1A), advice that it can easily accept and adopt; 1B), advice
> it accepts in principle but thinks more work is needed to elaborate
> and implement it; and 2) advice on which it just doesn’t agree with
> GAC. The 2’s would be the main challenge whenever a bylaws
> consultation is consensually undertaken. Per previous, ICANN’s
> supposed to provide an overview of these ratings across the 12 issue
> areas in the coming days, at which point it will be easier to consider
> them in NCUC/SG. I really can’t dig through the transcript right now
> to try to pull out and list each rating, and anyway my recollection is
> that PDT’s statements on at least some weren’t entirely clear and
> definitive anyway. But I can mention a few key bits of particular
> local concern:
>
> On the objection procedures, the Board seems inclined to relent on the
> requirements for governments to pay fees, at least under certain
> circumstances, 1B. Irrespective of what you make of the claim that
> they can’t pay a company for services because they’re sovereigns etc,
> I’d say if this gets a big bone of contention out of the way, give it
> to them and ICANN can figure out how to deal with the financial
> consequences. On the GAC’s objection to being bound by determinations
> of the ICC, to be honest I can’t find what the Board said in my notes,
> hopefully Avri remembers…
>
> On the procedures for the review of sensitive strings: as we know,
> the seemingly draconian approach suggested in the US input doc was not
> taken on board in the scorecard after some of the other governments
> balked. The scorecard says that any GAC member may raise an objection
> to a proposed string for any reason, and that the GAC will consider
> any objection and agree on advice to forward to the ICANN Board.
> While the former is too expansive and should be bound by some
> principles, the latter is consistent with the status quo.
>
> Maybe as a side note I should say that Avri and I had a long lunch
> talk with the lead USG person and talked about this in some detail.
> She insisted that the US doc was being misread out of context, in that
> is was geared toward internal GAC discussions and what their position
> should be, rather than some sort of new externally-oriented
> pronouncement that changes GAC’s bylaws role from advise to command.
> That is, “If it is the consensus position of the GAC not to oppose
> objection raised by a GAC member or members, ICANN shall reject the
> application,” meant that the GAC’s advise would be to reject, not that
> the Board would be bound to reject. At the same time, there was a bit
> of a waffle here, since she also felt it’d be exceptionally
> ill-advised to go forward over GAC objections, and Larry Stickling’s
> much quoted Flatirons speech in February stated that the Board “would
> have little choice but to reject the application.” Not that it
> legally couldn’t under the bylaws, but that it’d be stupid and
> self-destructive to do so, and presumably political pressure would be
> brought to bear to persuade it.
>
> The larger point she really emphasized was, as suspected, about
> ICANN’s preservation in the face of calls in the UN for
> intergovernmentalism. As we know, Brazil, India, South Africa and
> China have called for a new intergovernmental body with global
> Internet public policy responsibilities, and there’s fear that this
> and other proposals could morph into pressures for oversight or
> control of ICANN. The USG appears to be getting seriously worried
> that if more governments lock into a view that they cannot get their
> way with ICANN on matters they consider to be fundamental national
> interests, and/or that ICANN’s is irredeemably accountable to the
> broader international community, they’ll become more receptive to
> considering intergovernmental alternatives. One can debate whether
> that concern justifies the kinds of language used in the US input doc,
> and indeed we should at the NCUC event in San Francisco. But I do
> think they’re getting worried, as Stickling’s speech underscores. See
> also the Washington Post article the other day about how the Obama
> Administration is becoming a critic of ICANN, as well as Stickling’s
> testy December letter to Beckstrom….
>
> On other points discussed previously here: Re: registry/registrar
> separation, PDT characterized the board as agreeing with GAC that when
> there is market power, then there needs to be separation, but
> maintained that the Board has developed a better model for assessing
> and dealing with such circumstances. And as for the trademark stuff,
> there seemed to be Board movement toward the GAC concerns on many
> specific issues, a lot of 1A’s and 1B’s as I recall, but a few key 2’
> as well. Again, the ICANN doc (another “scorecard?”) should be out
> soon with that listing, and in the meanwhile we have Konstantinos’
> excellent blog analysis.
>
> I really do have to work on my course lectures, so this will have to
> suffice for now as a starting point, and hopefully others can fill in
> the picture on the zillion issues not mentioned.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
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