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2011/7/8 Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>

> I agree that this looks like a proposal for a "law enforcement
> constituency" or perhaps an initiative supported by companies who sell
> commercial products related to spam, phishing, etc.   Swapping out the words
> "commercial" for "economic" in the draft below show how ill-suited this
> proposal is for the noncommercial group.
>
> I find it troubling that a small aspect (law enforcement) of a much larger
> Consumer Agenda could be given such a broad platform to claim to represent
> The Consumer.  A consumer agenda is much more than law enforcement concerns
> - which have a place in the debate, but is better suited to a home in GAC
> where govts belong, or the CSG where commercial interests belong.
>
> Robin
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>
> > Rosemary:
> > I don't like these changes at all. It basically tries to identify the
> word "consumer" with a specific issue perspective that may or may not be
> supported by consumers. That's another reason why I am not a supporter of
> this whole idea.
> >
> > Many consumers are interested in privacy and in securing their personal
> information from public view. That's an element of consumer choice. That's
> why millions of consumers pay extra for proxy registration services.
> >
> > Your redefinition of the "consumer" agenda is really a law enforcement
> agenda. While there is room for legitimate debate around this, I think it
> not honest to equate law enforcement and copyright interests with consumers.
> That's just a rhetorical game.
> >
> > If you really want to be part of a consumer constituency, let's allow
> consumers orgs to decide for themselves what services the broader goals of
> competition, consumer trust and consumer choice.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On
> >> Behalf Of Rosemary Sinclair
> >> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:20 AM
> >> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> >> Subject: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] DRAFT Consumer Constituency objective -
> >> comments
> >>
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> Here's an attempt to take the next step - happy for any feedback
> >>
> >> Avri - could we put my DRAFT up so people could make their changes...
> >>
> >> I've included the NCSG-EC version from earlier this year (1) and my own
> >> DRAFT (2)
> >>
> >> 1) Consumer Constituency – NCSG EC comments March 2011
> >>
> >> The intended purpose of the Consumers Constituency is to serve as the
> >> conduit for consumer interests as they relate those areas of the
> Internet
> >> within the scope of ICANN.
> >>
> >> As representatives of consumers who are using the Internet to purchase
> or
> >> use goods and services the Constituency will focus on the economic
> aspects
> >> of the DNS that impact on consumers’ safety, security, stability,
> usability,
> >> access and other appropriate concerns to ensure these are adequately
> >> represented within ICANN policy development.
> >>
> >> As such the consumers Constituency will promote competition, consumer
> >> trust and consumer choice.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2) Consumer Constituency – Rosemary DRAFT July 2011
> >>
> >> The intended purpose of the Consumers Constituency is to serve as the
> >> conduit for consumers’ economic interests (fraud, spam, phishing,
> identity
> >> theft and privacy) as they relate to those areas of the Internet within
> the
> >> scope of ICANN (registration abuse, WHOIS, RAA, Compliance, new gTLDs).
> >>
> >> As representatives of consumers’ economic interests, the Constituency
> will
> >> focus on aspects of the DNS that impact on safety, security, stability,
> >> usability, access and other appropriate concerns to ensure these are
> >> adequately represented within ICANN policy development.
> >>
> >> As such the Consumer Constituency will promote competition, consumer
> >> trust and consumer choice.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Rosemary
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rosemary Sinclair
> >> Director | External Relations
> >> Australian School of Business | Level 3 Building L5 | UNSW |
> >> Sydney  NSW  2052
> >> Direct:  +61 2 9385 6228 | Fax: +61 2 9385 5933
> >> Email: rosemary.sinclair at unsw.edu.au  www.asb.unsw.edu.au
> >>
> >>        EQUIS accredited for 5 years
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Beau Brendler [mailto:beaubrendler at earthlink.net]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2011 1:16 PM
> >> To: Rosemary Sinclair; NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: Proposed Consumer Constituency Charter - comments?
> >>
> >> Avri wrote:
> >>
> >>>> But I still have to say that after a couple of years of this being on
> the table
> >> I've still not heard a really crisp and clear definition of what it
> would work on
> >> substantively that isn't already being followed, however unevenly, by
> >> existing groupings and people.  Maybe if there's a new construction with
> a
> >> big sign it will draw new bodies into the ICANNsphere and increase the
> level
> >> of engagement on a distinctive set of issues, but one does have to
> >> wonder.<<<
> >>
> >> Having written the charter more than three years ago now, and having
> seen
> >> it go through several rewrites over the course of at least three,
> possibly four
> >> public comment periods, I can tell you what you are looking for is in
> the
> >> words of the mission statement:
> >>
> >> "...serve as the conduit for consumer interests as they relate to the
> Internet
> >> and defined within the scope of ICANN.  The major areas of consumer
> >> interest are fraud, spam, phishing, identity theft, and privacy [defined
> within
> >> the ICANN scope as registration abuse, safety, and stability]; WHOIS;
> the
> >> Registrar Accreditation Agreement and the behavior of registrars,
> registries,
> >> resellers, domainers and other entities [defined within ICANN's scope as
> >> "compliance"]..."
> >>
> >> This language was written in part out of frustration with the then
> At-Large,
> >> and with the then NCUC. The at-large did not take much of an interest
> then
> >> on these issues; its interests seemed primarily in self-analysis and
> realizing
> >> the dream of new gTLDs. The NCUC, much smaller then, was focused on
> >> issues of free speech and freedom of expression, to the degree that its
> >> ideology ruled out just about any other issue as co-opted by moneyed
> >> interests. In addition, it appeared, to me anyway, the NCUC's focus or
> hope
> >> was to limit ICANN's power and scope as much as possible, and make it go
> >> away. Actually, in my opinion, if ICANN doesn't do a better job of
> enforcing
> >> contracts and compelling compliance, then it should go away, because it
> >> would then be a big waste of time and money and a fraudulent construct
> >> that does more harm than good by pretending to do something it isn't.
> But it
> >> doesn't appear to be going away soon so its behavior needs to be
> challenged
> >> on behalf of the public interest. The contracted parties should not be
> winning
> >> every argument the way they do now.
> >>
> >> If it's the name of the constituency that seems to confuse people, well,
> >> change its name to the contract compliance constituency or something.
> But
> >> arguments for its continued existence or non-existence should be based
> on
> >> merit, not on whether it may or may not have too many quasi-commercial
> >> parties involved. That's just a smokescreen -- the consumer
> constituency's
> >> charter had always been much more stringent about who it would or would
> >> not allow to be a member based on commercial ties or interests than the
> >> NCUC's or the NCSG's. The way the consumer constituency's charter has
> >> been written, you can't be a member and own a registrar. You can't make
> a
> >> principal living off consulting for governments or companies on ICANN
> >> matters and be a member. And so on. We need to move past that now.
> >>
> >> If it takes constituencies to flesh out the NCSG's scope of policy work
> to
> >> include broader matters than freedom of speech and expression, then new
> >> constituencies should be welcomed, not feared. We need more people
> >> working on RAA issues and contract compliance and defining registration
> >> abuse and the rights of registrants (and how their behavior effects the
> >> general public) outside the core group of people doing it now, who also
> tend
> >> to be the same people who are interested in seeing the consumer
> >> constituency go forward).
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rosemary Sinclair <rosemary.sinclair at UNSW.EDU.AU>
> >>> Sent: Jun 30, 2011 3:34 AM
> >>> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> >>> Subject: Proposed Consumer Constituency Charter - comments?
> >>>
> >>> Hi all
> >>>
> >>> Here's the link Avri has set up to the docs...
> >> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Consumer+Constit
> >> uency+%28CC%29+-+candidate
> >>>
> >>> Here's the submitted version of the Mission....
> >>>
> >>> 1.2 Mission
> >>> The intended purpose of the Consumers Constituency is to serve as the
> >> conduit for consumer interests as they relate to the Internet and
> defined
> >> within the scope of ICANN.  The major areas of consumer interest are
> fraud,
> >> spam, phishing, identity theft, and privacy [defined within the ICANN
> scope
> >> as registration abuse, safety, and stability]; WHOIS; the Registrar
> >> Accreditation Agreement and the behavior of registrars, registries,
> resellers,
> >> domainers and other entities [defined within ICANN's scope as
> >> "compliance"]; and new gTLDs.  The focus of the Consumers Constituency
> >> will be to ensure that consumers' safety, security, stability,
> usability, access,
> >> and other appropriate concerns regarding the DNS are adequately
> >> represented within ICANN policy development.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Let's get feedback around the version of the Charter that reflects the
> >> interest of the people who support the
> >>> Proposed constituency - we might be able to find a way through or at
> least
> >> clarify the views
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Rosemary
> >>>
> >>> Rosemary Sinclair
> >>> Director | External Relations
> >>> Australian School of Business | Level 3 Building L5 | UNSW |
> >> Sydney  NSW  2052
> >>> Direct:  +61 2 9385 6228 | Fax: +61 2 9385 5933
> >>> Email: rosemary.sinclair at unsw.edu.au  www.asb.unsw.edu.au
> >>>
> >>>        EQUIS accredited for 5 years
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
>
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