discussion on xxx domain? [ncsg-policy] Draft NCSG comments to GNSO Council on Rec 6

[Dwi Elfrida Martina S]

Dear Nuno,

Thanks so much, great insight and opinion, I will not say that you are
wrong. But just to clarify that my reply in just intended to rudi, my
friend from Indonesia. we were talking about porn issue through internet
in Indonesia. as rudi asked about regulation and program of government
indonesia in regard to pornography through internet.

Regards,


Dwi




I hope that in the end I do not sound like a Hulstler or Playboy
> stockholder
> or subscriber (I am neither of these), but this is really what I believe
> in,
> and probably my opinion is relevant for the mailing list.
>
> On 14 January 2011 03:00, Dwi Elfrida Martina S <
> dwi.elfrida at depkominfo.go.id> wrote:
>
>> hi rudy,
>>
>>
>> (snipped)
>
> I agree with you, there is no country who already TOTALLY success to do
>> process 'filter'. But, still we have to do our best to place
>> "pornography"
>> in good order, means there is certain regulation, term & condition. so,
>> we
>> can protect country from decreasing of morality:)
>>
>
> As I think we have made clear from previous statements, Morality (as well
> as
> public order) ARE NOT an issue that concerns this constituency and these
> considerations should therefore be left out of discussion and encouraged
> to
> be left of all the discussions in ICANN.
>
> (long parenthesis: I'm sure Dwi was formulating a wish for its own
> country,
> and it this case, it's perfectly ok to do so. I must recall the list that
> Morality is an extremelly complex issue, much more than paedophilia, which
> is generally defined as crime in most western and southern countries, but,
> in contrast, it is indulged by some other countries (e.g. asian), and was
> not at all a crime before 1950 in most of the countries I know. When these
> issues dig deep in our cultural backgrounds and in our religious or belief
> points of view, it is best to rely on the system of values that we know is
> transversal to all Mankind and are best described in the Charter for Human
> Rights, that I think best summarizes the values we must guide for. End of
> long parenthesis.)
>
> In conclusion, and having the Charter for Human Rights as a working bench,
> I
> say that the arguments for discussing this or that issue (but not for the
> .XXX which is long due), should never be issues on liberty, or censorship,
> let alone competencies or policies for governments.
>
> We, as an informed and knowledgeable community, must put forward our
> opinions having in view the larger and greater good of our fellow Internet
> users, oblivious to where they sit in working days or in holidays or in
> Holy
> days. All of us deserve an Internet that _does_ _not_ _limit_ our rights
> as
> persons and promotes the values engraved in the Charter for Human Rights.
>
> We cannot say much regarding the different civilizational issues of
> different countries. For me, I know that in my country we still have a
> long
> way to go. But this is my belief, probably some of my fellow citizens do
> not
> agree with me, and therefore this is not an issue to discuss here.
>
> I have the greatest of respects for all cultures, religions and
> civilizations, and I try hard to not let my personal beliefs to stand in
> the
> way of my professional beliefs, so I expect others to do the same.
>
> Of course, I stand perfectly aware that, as Ortega y Gasset once said, I
> am
> myself and my circumstance, and thus my points of view will always be
> tainted by the fact that I was born and raised here.
>
> So to conclude, for me the purpose of this constituency is not to place
> pornography or capitalism or comunism or _______ (fill in with you word of
> choice) into order.
>
> It is to make sure that we provide ICANN with valueable and wise opinions.
> And we should do our best to do so. For our own good and the benefit of
> all
> mankind.
>
> I leave you all with two thoughts, one from Ben Franklin who once said "He
> who gives up a liberty to achieve a temporary security deserves neither
> and
> will loose both" (and there are plenty of historical examples of this),
> and
> the other, from a greek philosopher whose name I cannot remember "the best
> way to prevent a damage to society is to educate the children".
>
> With my personal and sincere excuses if my points of view have offended
> anyone (was not my intention), I wish you all a nice week end,
>
> Nuno Garcia
>