Welcoming a new NCSG member

Wed May 26 18:01:08 CEST 2010

2010/5/24, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>:
>
>  The number of people interested in what ICANN does is intrinsically a
> small portion of the politically active population.
>

Correct, in some countries like my own country we meet a lot of barrior:
social, cultural, economic and decison makers.
a specifiic barrior is in linguistic level.

The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a
> membership organization related to icann is a small portion of the previous
> portion of the population.
>

we have a serious problem of ICANN visiblity in local area.

The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a
> membership organization related to icann AND willing to vote or otherwise
> participate in specific processes is a small portion of previous portion of
> the population.
>

With several constituencies, I thing the process is on.

The number of people interested in and capable of using all this effort to
> make decisions and administer policies are an even smaller bunch (and may or
> may not be drawn from the previous population).
>

in this point, three points can be identify:
-local agenda
-speed, plurality and quantity of items
-linguistic problem

<repeat as necessary>
>
>
>
> Bottom line of this cascade:
>
> I agree with Bill, too. We need to cultivate the people we have.
>
>  I approve this argument
>
> *From:* NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] *On Behalf
> Of *Rafik Dammak
> *Sent:* Monday, May 24, 2010 3:20 AM
> *To:* NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] Welcoming a new NCSG member
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I totally agree with Bill,  I think for outreach we are doing well and we
> can continue on that, but I think that having more people participating in
> WGs, making public comments and drafting NCSG statements is urgent.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
> 2010/5/24 William Drake <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>
>
> Hi
>
> I'm on the board of EURALO, a chunk of which (not me, thankfully) spent a
> great deal of time going back and forth with staff on the production and
> distribution of a single sheet fold-over brochure.  After a rather
> protracted process, a few folks have now started to drag stacks around to
> meetings like EuroDIG, and perhaps this will ultimately lead to some new ALS
> applications, but one does have to wonder whether this kind of old school
> outreach was worth the effort that went into it relative to other work.  In
> the meanwhile, NCUC grew enormously over the past year or so largely through
> Robin's online outreach.
>
> Our immediate problem isn't to draw in more folks, but rather to
> consolidate and more fully engage the ones we already have, in the first
> instance on the charter vote.  If we can meet the threshold and get the
> charter passed ASAP, then sure our media team
> http://ncdnhc.org/group/mediateam could explore a leaflet as part of its
> strategy.  But I wouldn't let a piece of paper distract the whole group from
> the pressing task at hand.
>
> Two cents,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On May 24, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:
>
> > What shocked me in the NARALO process is that - given a long drawn
> > out, and presumably costly at their end, design process - when asked
> > how many they would print ICANN staff responded as few as possible,
> > suggesting 100 or so would suffice. I would have thought a run of 5000
> > or so would be in order, just to punt some out to every ALS etc. to
> > give out at meetings, but they are just thinking Brussels.
> >
> > Similarly, I would think in our case. I like the idea of doing
> > something like http://kickstarter.com where everyone pledges until a
> > sufficient amount is reached - altho I'm not fond of kickstarter's
> > Amazon payment scheme. If a 501c3 was needed as a fiscal sponsor that
> > US tax-deductible donations could be be made to I'd think ISOC-NY
> > would be willing.
> >
> > 1-800-postcards charges ~ $250 for 500 brochures, there would be some
> > additional shipping.
> > http://www.1800postcards.com/order/products/brochures.aspx?size=8.5x11
> >
> > The least that could be done is to design something that can posted as
> > a pdf and then printed at will.
> >
> > joly
> >
> > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ltu.se> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We canot assume any help at all from ICANN.
> >>
> >> But we can ask if that is what we want to do. Then again, once the
> charter vote is complete and we know where we are going, that is one of the
> reasons I finally want to get on track with the fundraising plans I have put
> off because of the amount of work involved in the charter process.  While it
> is all well and good to look to ICANn for help, we need need to find a way
> to fund our own needs, including pamphlets and getting members from
> developing regions to the meeting so they can participate fully in the ICANN
> process.
> >>
> >> a.
> >>
> >> On 23 May 2010, at 18:19, Joly MacFie wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's a good idea.
> >>>
> >>> The NARALO brochure, copy and overall design having been decided by
> >>> members, is being designed and printed by ICANN. Can we assume that
> >>> they would extend the same facility to NCSG?
> >>>
> >>> We also used the ICANN Social Text wiki to do the design
> >>> collaboration. https://st.icann.org/
> >>>
> >>> j
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> First welcoming on board  AAMC and Amber to the constituency in ICANN
> >>>> with a Soul ;o)
> >>>>
> >>>> Secondly, this new addition just triggered the idea that it would be
> >>>> viable to explore and contribute a NCSG brochure like a bookmark on
> >>>> the lines of the ones we received around the ICANN meeting in Nairobi
> >>>> for example, from NOMCOM, ALAC and separate for their regional
> >>>> organizations, about ICANN, about ccNSO etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> This small bookmarker like brochure with NCSG can share what it is,
> >>>> its objectives and how to join the NCSG and its membership level and a
> >>>> link to the website/email contact. This would be very useful in
> >>>> raising awareness amongst ICANN participants especially the new ones
> >>>> that add up to the ICANN community each year.
> >>>>
> >>>> Its a start you know :o)
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Best
> >>>> Fouad
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ltu.se> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am happy to announce that the Association of American Medical
> Colleges has been accepted by the NCSG Executive Committee as an
> organizational member of the NCSG.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From their website http://www.aamc.org:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The AAMC represents all 132 accredited U.S. and 17 accredited
> Canadian medical schools; approximately 400 major teaching hospitals and
> health systems, including 68 Department of Veterans Affairs medical centers;
> and nearly 90 academic and scientific societies. Through these institutions
> and organizations, the AAMC represents 125,000 faculty members, 75,000
> medical students, and 106,000 resident physicians.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amber Sterling will be their primary representative to the NCSG and
> has been added to this discussion list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Welcome AAMC, Welcome Amber.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
> >>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
> >>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
> >>>  Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
> > WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
> > http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
> >  Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ***********************************************************
> William J. Drake
> Senior Associate
> Centre for International Governance
> Graduate Institute of International and
>  Development Studies
> Geneva, Switzerland
> william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch
> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
> ***********************************************************
>
>
>

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