[] FYI - New GNSO Constituency Notice of Intent - Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency

[Avri Doria]

Hi Fouad,

With due respect, AAAMC and Amber as its rep are part of NCSG.  And I am glad of it.  she may also want to get involved in AT-Large.  but as far as her membership goes that has been settled, whether she is part of a Constituency application or not.

What we now need to resolve is how to move on from her with our membership.

thanks

a.



On 17 Jun 2010, at 13:50, Fouad Bajwa wrote:

> Amber, have you attended any NCSG-NCUC meeting as yet, I don't
> remember you participating to raise any concerns or intentions in
> Seoul or Nairobi?
> 
> Maybe you are attempting to create a conflict of interest in the name
> of a non-profit constituency and you may want to explore the option of
> becoming an At-Large ALS under ALAC: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/
> 
> Community process strengthening and participation is about winning
> consensus and support of the community, not going totally against the
> whole Non-Commercial spirit.
> 
> Lurking on lists is not a reason to confide in and that creates
> serious concerns. As a member of NCSG-NCUC from the developing world,
> I would never recommend such an approach because it also exposes
> intentions of many such as the ICANN staff issue already raised here.
> 
> IMHO, you should win community and not turn the community against this
> issue therefore you should respect the community member's concerns
> because alone, there is no constituency.
> 
> The concerns shown by the membership of the NCSG-NCUC community are
> very valid and your position is a discrimination one.
> 
> It is still my humble advice that you should join the ICANN community
> and constituency process through ALAC and NARALO (North American
> Regional At-Large Organization) instead of attempting to create cracks
> in the existing one.
> 
> -- 
> Concerned
> --------------------------
> Fouad Bajwa
> 
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Amber Sterling <asterling at aamc.org> wrote:
>> I am one of the leaders supporting the proposed Not-for-Profit
>> Organization Constituency.  First and foremost the proposed NPOC is not
>> an attempt to merely expand trademark owners rights.
>> 
>> I have been a lurker on this list serve for a while now and I believe
>> that the NCSG does not promote various opinions and discussions from its
>> "dynamic representation of various social classes".  The NPOC would
>> allow not-for-profit organizations to affiliate and respond to various
>> DNS issues, as it pertains to our organizations.
>> 
>> Debra Hughes, another leader of the NPOC, reached out to all GNSO
>> council members.  Rafik even joined one of our outreach webinars.
>> 
>> Further, it is my understanding that ICANN has strongly encouraged (if
>> not mandated) membership expansion.  This new constituency would be a
>> vehicle for new members to join the ICANN conversation.
>> 
>> Amber Sterling
>> Business Development Specialist
>> Association of American Medical Colleges
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of
>> Konstantinos Komaitis
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:19 AM
>> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [council] FYI - New GNSO Constituency Notice of Intent -
>> Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency
>> 
>> That is very true - because we have been so very good at stopping the
>> expansion of trademarks outside our circles now we will have to do the
>> same within our own one. It is embarrassing for a constituency that
>> calls itself non-commercial to promote the ICANN-led protection of
>> trademarks and seek to justify it.
>> 
>> KK
>> 
>> Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis,
>> Law Lecturer,
>> Director of Postgraduate Instructional Courses
>> University of Strathclyde,
>> The Law School,
>> The Lord Hope Building,
>> 141 St. James Road,
>> Glasgow, G4 0LT
>> UK
>> tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306
>> http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Reg
>> ulation-isbn9780415477765
>> Selected publications:
>> http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038
>> Website: http://domainnamelaw.ning.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of
>> Kimberley Heitman
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:57 AM
>> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [council] FYI - New GNSO Constituency Notice of Intent -
>> Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency
>> 
>>> I do not understand very well. Why option to form a nonprofit group?
>> Are
>>> we not in a dynamic representation of various social classes?
>> 
>> Have you noticed the proponents all have an interest in trademarks? A
>> cynic
>> might think that it is an attempted takeover of the public interest
>> constituency by trademark owners, launched from the home of
>> astro-turfing.
>> 
>> -----------------------
>> Kimberley James Heitman
>> www.kheitman.com
>> -----------------------
>> 
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