Draft Council letter on the ARR

[Carlos A. Afonso]

Bill, it is more than names. Since 2002 the Rule (there is only one
rule) states:

When a meeting, or part thereof, is held under the Chatham House Rule,
participants are free to use the information received, but neither the
identity nor the affiliation of the speaker(s), nor that of any other
participant, may be revealed.

This is more than names. I cannot say "Chuck Gomez said this", and I
cannot say "the representative of Verisign said this " or even "the
chair of GNSO said this".

--c.a.

William Drake wrote:
> Robin
>
> Chatham doesn't make it secret, it just strips out the names of who
> said what.  The content still comes out. Other SGs feel that's
> important to them being able to participate (pertains mostly to
> inter-corporate squabbling) and I don't think we could have gotten a
> consensus council statement without it.  And that council statement
> does call for two way info flow with AC/SOs, which was not in the
> staff proposal.  So less than perfect transparency, but more than
> there'd have been otherwise.
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
> On Jan 20, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sending this draft council letter around.  It is very
>> good except I do not agree that the review groups should operate
>> under Chatham House Rules on confidentiality.  It would certainly
>> be a step backward for a group that is to assess the openness and
>> transparency of ICANN to operate in this secret fashion and
>> contrary to ICANN's promises of openness and transparency.
>> Everything else in the letter looks good however.
>>
>> Thanks, Robin
>>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:15 AM, William Drake wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Please see the attached draft and let me know if you have any
>>> comments etc.  Otherwise I'll propose a motion tomorrow...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> <Draft GNSO Council response to the draft proposal on the
>>> Affirmation Reviews Requirements and Implementation
>>> Processes.pdf>
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com> Date: January 19,
>>>> 2010 4:58:20 PM GMT+01:00 To: "William Drake"
>>>> <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>, "GNSO Council List"
>>>> <council at gnso.icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] Draft Council
>>>> letter on the ARR
>>>>
>>>> Please forward this to your SGs/Constituencies right away and
>>>> request feedback.  The Council will need to make a decision on
>>>> whether to submit the comments or some revised version of them
>>>> in our 28 Jan meeting.  If anyone wants to make a motion in
>>>> that regard, motions are needed by tomorrow, Wednesday, 20
>>>> January.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>>>>>  [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of William
>>>>> Drake Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:40 AM To: GNSO
>>>>> Council List Subject: [council] Draft Council letter on the
>>>>> ARR
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached please find the drafting team's proposed response to
>>>>>  the draft proposal on the Affirmation Reviews Requirements
>>>>> and Implementation Processes, for discussion with our
>>>>> respective SGs and in the Council.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> ***********************************************************
>>> William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International
>>> Governance Graduate Institute of International and Development
>>> Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch
>>> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
>>> ***********************************************************
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San
>> Francisco, CA  94117  USA p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: robin at ipjustice.org
>>
>>
>>
>
> *********************************************************** William
> J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance
> Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies Geneva,
> Switzerland william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch
> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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>

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