more info coming out in press on Yarro's efforts to flood ICANN with identikit form letters
Robin Gross
robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG
Thu Mar 19 21:57:12 CET 2009
Below are a couple more press articles about Yarro's efforts to flood
ICANN with its identikit form letters on behalf of the mysterious
"Cybersafety" Constituency.
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http://www.circleid.com/posts/
20090318_icann_asked_remake_internet_joseph_smith
ICANN Asked to Remake the Internet in Joseph Smith's Image?
By Lauren Weinstein
If there's one thing that scares the bejabbers out of me, it's when
organized religion—either directly or via proxies—attempts to nose
its way into technology policy issues.
It appears that such a scenario is unfolding currently, with a
concerted new effort to fundamentally remake the Internet in a manner
befitting the sensibilities of top-down religious hierarchies. An
Internet Pope? The Spanish Inquisition? Not exactly—that's the
incorrect religion for this particular case.
The Register connects the dots of a rather sordid sequence of events
in an article posted today.
Executive summary: It appears that mainly Utah-based Mormon anti-porn
crusaders, in league with Ralph J. Yarro III (SCO Group chairman)
have combined forces to petition ICANN toward the creation of a new
"Cybersafety Constituency"—and are now reportedly using form letters
to dominate the brief period of time available for comments.
To better understand how this all comes together and what such a
Cybersafety Constituency might be after, one must be aware that
Cheryl Preston, a key player for CP80 (headed by Yarro) is
spearheading this effort.
CP80, which has been around for a number of years, has been pushing a
radical and impractical (decorum prevents me from saying "loony" at
this juncture) plan for fundamental restructuring of Internet
architecture, along with associated new laws, to "channelize" the
Internet into the censorship advocates' dream machine. These are hard-
core Internet content control zealots we're talking about, at least
judging from their own materials.
CP80 says that a whole slew of big name corporations, including
Apple, Toshiba, Wal-Mart, Sony, PetSmart, Office Depot, and on and
on, are "contribution partners" to their effort—seeming to imply
support for the CP80 agenda. In reality, it appears likely to me that
these are merely purchase affiliation links, and I wonder how many of
these firms are aware of the manner in which CP80 is using their
names and logos.
While it's difficult to visualize CP80's radical agenda gaining much
traction in the short term, their entanglement with the new ICANN
petition and what appears to be a well orchestrated Mormon pressure
campaign certainly rate a "yellow shading toward orange" alert.
To be exceptionally clear about this, the key issue here isn't the
particular religion involved. I'd say exactly the same thing about
any other organized religion that appeared to be involving itself—in
my view—inappropriately in technology policy matters.
Unfortunately, history teaches us that organized religion (a concept
that I've always considered to be utterly orthogonal to truly
meaningful questions of God, gods, and spirituality in general) is
all too often an instrument for societal control rather than
enlightenment.
I consider it crucial that the Internet not be sucked into this
particular maelstrom.
(This post was originally published on Lauren Weinstein's blog.)
Written by Lauren Weinstein. Visit the blog maintained by Lauren
Weinstein here.
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http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Yarro-AntiPorn-Crusaders-Want-More-
ICANN-Clout-101450
Yarro, Anti-Porn Crusaders Want More ICANN Clout
So they can push 'ports for porn' idea harder...
10:03AM Thursday Mar 19 2009 by Karl Bode
Anti-pornography activists, led by SCO Group chairman Ralph Yarro
III, have been busy over the last few years trying to purge the 'net
of smut. Dubbed CP80, the group has pushed a number of bad ideas,
such as assigning certain ports just to porn, so it could supposedly
be more easily filtered. Yarro and his friends are now lobbying ICANN
to create a new "Cybersafety Constituency" which would help develop
binding policies for the Internet’s domain name system. Of course
their "ports for porn" idea is in tow, though it's a technical
nuisance and would do little to stop the circulation of porn anyway.
For those interested, ICANN is fielding public comment here.
Forums » Yarro, Anti-Porn Crusaders Want More ICANN Clout
moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
Sure you can filter porn to certain ports.....
.....if you do the same to the ultra religious sites too.

·RoadRunner Cable
edit:
March 19th, @01:55PM
Re: Sure you can filter porn to certain ports.....
Well, suppose we had either or both of these rules. The first,
obvious question is who determines which sites are in which category?
Presumably this so-called "Cybersafety Constituency" would like
themselves placed in charge of classifying sites as "pornography" or
not. ("safety"? There is actually no proof that pornography is
harmful to minors or anyone.) And let's have you, moonpuppy

appoint someone to classify sites as fundie/non-fundie. Then the
next thing would be attempts to tax internet users to pay for all
this classification effort. Soon after would be controversies over
mis-classification.
Meanwhile software authors would immediately come up with a browser
feature like "if it's not on port 80, try the porno port and the
fundie port". Of course, others would soon want more categories
(criticizing government, etc.). And who would prevent webmasters in
every nation from disobeying the rules and putting everything on port
80?
The response would be an attempt to get ISPs to block the ports
assigned to certain types of content. But millions of users would
object. So a crucial, implicit part of the proposal would have to be
legislation to force ISPs to censor the internet.
The list of severe problems with the whole idea goes on from there -
my list is only the most egregious items.
BTW, most of the support for this is form letters put out by one
organization in Utah - and it happens that Utah is the state with the
highest pornography consumption in the USA.
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Edit: Moonpuppy, I didn't mean to imply that your proposal was
serious, and in fact I agree with the sentiment. I was only using it
as a start on pointing out the craziness of the idea.
Let's have the technical authorities just be in charge of keeping the
internet working as well as possible from a technical point of view,
and parents in charge of what their children do on the computer, and
the two not step on each other's jurisdictions.
permalink · 2009-03-19 13:51:23 · Print ·


Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL

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·Comcast
edit:
March 19th, @10:01AM

The Outer Limits of censorship!

We will control the Horizontal, we will control the Vertical, we
will control all that you see and hear! This is the slippery slope of
censorship. Why don't these tyrants spend their efforts helping those
evicted from their homes, rather than trying to be the thought police!
permalink · 2009-03-19 09:54:53 ·



fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday
Premium
join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA

·Comcast
and look at Utah...
It is quite interesting that the highest porn consumption on internet
and cable comes from states like Utah. Such hypocrites!
Why anyone would believe a word that comes from anyone connected with
SCO is beyond imaginable. But then, these religionists believe in
talking snakes, too.
permalink · 2009-03-19 10:12:10 ·


nitzan
join:2008-02-27

What a bunch of idiots.
Sure, let's ban porn on port 80, and since the US is the world -
let's block all other countries since they still allow pr0n on port 80.
I have a better solution for them - get off the internet - we don't
need you here!
permalink · 2009-03-19 10:13:16 ·


me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

·VOIPo
Dude.............
I do not support porn, but people have free will if they want to do
something they KNOW they should not I, and we, cannot stop them. The
Government trying to force stop them will phail epically. People are
flawed imperfect creatures we cannot change that, or stop them.
permalink · 2009-03-19 10:49:27 ·


Dark Fiber
Premium
join:2005-01-23
Boise, ID

·Clearwire

·Qwest.net
Re: Dude.............
said by me1212

:
...if they want to do something they KNOW they should not...
Many that enjoy adult content don't share your moral outlook. Don't
make the mistake of assuming that your morality can (or should) be
ascribed to everyone else.
permalink · 2009-03-19 12:13:26 ·




me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
Re: Dude.............
I never said they do/did, just they no1 can stop them. Let them be
they have free will. I choose not to do it, I will not stop them, I
haven't the right to do so. No man can really stop them especially
the Government they will phail epically.
permalink · 2009-03-19 12:17:34 ·


·RoadRunner Cable
edit:
March 19th, @01:05PM
Re: Dude.............
I think Dark Fiber was referring to this:
"they want to do something they KNOW they should not"
Based on your morals, they shouldn't. Fine. Based on others' morals,
it's not necessarily something they should not do, and their morals
would likewise not guide them to believe they shouldn't do it.
Your comment implies that you feel it is wrong and everyone else
should know it is wrong as well, but at least you support them making
an alleged bad decision.
permalink · 2009-03-19 13:03:50 ·



me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
Re: Dude.............
Oh ok. Whatever. And there were some people I was talking about who
shall remain nameless.
permalink · 2009-03-19 13:47:10 ·


mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
Premium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY
If they don't like it...
...Why are they even bothering?
permalink · 2009-03-19 11:30:31 ·


bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY

·Verizon FIOS
Spend a few million of taxpayers money, quick.
And some 14 year old taking school computer classes will have it
hacked or a workaround in about a week.
Why do people who know nothing about the internet keep coming up with
stupid ideas.
Usually these come from politicians and aren't known for their
brains, at least since the financial collapse of AIG etc.
permalink · 2009-03-19 12:31:27 ·


Aozora
join:2008-11-28

·Comcast
So many more important things out there...
Let's think of a few:
-Teen pregnancies(specially unwanted ones)
-Crime rates
-Global warming
-The massive stupidity out there
-Graduation rates and public school systems
-Terrible train systems that seems you are in third world country
(actually theirs might be better)
-Faster and cheaper broadband
-Our massive homicide per capita rate(they are off the charts amigo,
we are now Mexico JR.)
-Better health care
Oh, I don't know, and about a million other things out there. I think
I will leave the porn fighting for when some of the more serious
issues above have been addressed. People watching a lot of porn and
masturbating themselves to death is not necessarily affecting
society. Nor is unsupervised teens or younger watching a boob on the
Internet because moronic and incompetent mommy has no idea how to
raise her kid.
All the incompetent baboons always want to censor everything and have
everything hidden behind a barrier because they do not want to take
some of the responsibility of managing their kids. These same idiots
trying to hide porn from everyone are the same parents who do not
know how to instill values and knowledge in their own children and
while they are fighting for these ludicrous implementations their 14
yr old daughter is prostituting herself on the street.
I tell it like it is.
permalink · 2009-03-19 14:07:14 · Print ·



Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
Re: So many more important things out there...
said by Aozora

:
Let's think of a few:
-Teen pregnancies(specially unwanted ones)
-Crime rates
-Global warming
-The massive stupidity out there
-Graduation rates and public school systems
-Terrible train systems that seems you are in third world country
(actually theirs might be better)
-Faster and cheaper broadband
-Our massive homicide per capita rate(they are off the charts amigo,
we are now Mexico JR.)
-Better health care
Oh, I don't know, and about a million other things out there.
And ALL of these things can be resolved if we just stop porn!
permalink · 2009-03-19 14:43:34 · Print ·




dentman42
join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH

·AT&T Midwest
Re: So many more important things out there...
said by Skippy25

:
And ALL of these things can be resolved if we just stop porn!
And nobody's even said "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!" yet!
permalink · 2009-03-19 15:26:21 ·




Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
edit:
March 19th, @03:32PM
What I find a real Howler
I work at a Veterans Hospital and I have a great deal of contact with
fellow Veterans returning from Iraq. They tell me every time they
capture a computer, mostly laptops, from Iraqi holy warriors, they
are all full of XXXXXXXXXXXXXX rated porno. I suppose they want a
sneak preview of those 71 virgins. The point is these stateside holy
warriors will have no more success with porno then they did a 100
years ago with prohibition.
--
I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning
religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the
monkey's.
- Mark Twain in Eruption
permalink · 2009-03-19 14:44:21 · Print ·



utahluge
join:2004-10-14
Draper, UT

·Comcast

·MSTAR
Re: So many more important things out there...
said by Aozora

:
......People watching a lot of porn and masturbating themselves to
death is not necessarily affecting society......
Agreed.
Ask yourself; would you rather someone:
A. Masturbating to porn in their own house not disturbing others.
B. A stalker (or dare I go as far as rapist) who can only get their
'fix' by being a predator.
permalink · 2009-03-19 15:05:33 · Print ·



Aozora
join:2008-11-28

·Comcast
I forgot to mention the already massive amounts of way of restricting
porn access to kids if parents want.
My router has features for that. There are programs apart from that
and GUESS WHAT? You can make sure their account on their computer is
restrictive. OMG. All these features and nobody is using them. I am
so worried about porn... its little harm along with the millions of
ways to prevent kids access to porn already. This is an issue that
needs massive attention and resources right now. EVERYONE, QUICK, TO
THE ANTIPORN MOBILE!!



permalink · 2009-03-19 16:01:09 · Print ·



DrStrange
Technically feasible
Premium
join:2001-07-23
West Hartford, CT

·magicjack.com

·Stephouse Networks

·EarthLink
Kick SCO off the 'net. It's a dangerous cult.
They can appoint themselves the arbiters of porn right after they
appoint me the arbiter of what is and isn't a harmful religious cult
[or maybe not, since they'd have just been determined to be part of a
harmful religious cult and kicked off the 'net].
I'm liable to be a lot more tolerant of porn than I am of people who
advocate censorship.
First SCO thins it owns Linux, now it wants to play 'net Nazi. Get
lost and stay there, SCO!
permalink · 2009-03-19 15:44:47 ·


ross
join:2000-08-16

·Digizip
I really liked this response...
»forum.icann.org/lists/cyber-safe···211.html
And, I also liked my own, posted to the ICANN comment forum:
Perhaps the Cybersafety Constituency should simply shut down their
computers for good. That would definitely be preferable to letting
this minority dictate the permissibility of on-line content in any
sense.
The methods and goals of the Cybersafety Constituency are similar to
those of other organizations and interest groups whose censorship
agenda has been repeatedly struck down by the courts. No need to
waste the time, energy or money on the futile pursuit of a "pure",
porn-free world wide web. It simply will not happen.
The founders of this so called constituency ought to do a bit more
fiddling with themselves, and lot less diddling with the rights of
the rest of us.
IP JUSTICE
Robin Gross, Executive Director
1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA
p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451
w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org
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