vertical separation of registries and registrars

Fouad Bajwa fouadbajwa at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jul 9 17:42:16 CEST 2009


Hi Adam,
Yes, he is a friend of mine but I think it would be hard to discuss it
with Zahid since he is the legal council at PKNIC, serves on its
Policy Advisory Board and is also managing the DNDRC.org with support
from PKNIC.

Whatever happens, the issues of PKNIC will not be solved unless it
opens up to public participation. Right now, its a very closed party.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Adam Peake<ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> Fouad, you should talk to Zahid Jamil, he seems to be involved in efforts to
> reorganize .PK.
>
> ICANN doesn't manage ccTLDs. ICANN bylaws
> <http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm> help to explain what ICANN and
> the ccNSO do and don't do.
>
> But there was talk in Sydney of starting a review of the ccTLD
> delegation/redelegation process, and could expect that to lead to clarity
> about roles, involvement of the "local Internet community" (and defining
> what that is) etc.  Think this will be an issue for the ccNSO at their Seoul
> meeting.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> At 12:01 PM +0500 7/9/09, Fouad Bajwa wrote:
>>
>> Distress with ICANN ccTLD Contracts for developing world regions:
>>
>> There is also another important issue that is dividing the
>> stakeholders in developing world countries. For example, in the case
>> of the ccTLD Manager in Pakistan for .pk is causing a lot of
>> discussion and dispute amongst the local industry between stakeholders
>> with claims regarding the mismanagement of the ccTLD. I have been
>> recording all the activities of the ccTLD since early this year.
>>
>> One root cause of this problem arises from the fact that ICANN does
>> not have a clear transparency model for the management of ccTLDs,
>> secondly, it has many agreements with ccTLD managers that it received
>> under its take over of IANA. If you look at the ccTLD map on the ICANN
>> website, you will see it only highlights the agreements it did itself
>> and not those done under contract by IANA. This is leaving the
>> stakeholders in a country like Pakistan distressed and confused.
>>
>> Issues at hand:
>> These issues have emerged over and over on the Telecom Grid of
>> Pakistan and Pakistan ICT Policy Network mailing lists sometimes
>> resulting in heavy flamewars between the debators and defendents. Only
>> last year in June 2008, PKNIC faced its worse downtime spanned over 7
>> days during which its 28000 plus domain names were on a total halt
>> inflicting heavy financial and intellectual property loss to the
>> domain owners and client organizations. All three key stakeholders of
>> Pakistan's E-Governance Infrastructure including the Government of
>> Pakistan, the Private Sectors including the Business Commerce and
>> Industry as well as Civil Society were amongst the effectees. Despite
>> this PKNIC walked away clean.
>>
>> What to do:
>> ICANN must be encouraged to revise its ccTLD management contracts,
>> review its registrar and registration policies for ccTLDs and create
>> space for Public Participation or atleast the stakeholders of the
>> ccTLD manager's region so that these ccTLDs may be scrutinized and
>> become transparent to stakeholders.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Milton L Mueller<mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>  An important policy issue that is bitterly dividing the industry along
>>> somewhat difficult to predict lines is whether registrars and registries
>>> should become more integrated. ICANN has sponsored two economic studies.
>>> One, by Charles Rivers Associates International (CRAI) proposes a very
>>> moderate relaxation of this requirement. Another, by an economist named
>>> Carleton, proposes getting rid of it altogether, and this is the position
>>> than seems to be favored by ICANN staff.
>>>
>>>  Afilias and PIR have come out strongly opposed to the proposed policy.
>>> You can bone up on some of the issues by looking at the web site they
>>> prepared: http://www.registryregistrarseparation.org/blog
>>>
>>>  Ideally we should develop a position statement on this
>>>
>>>  Milton Mueller
>>>  Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>>>  XS4All Professor, Delft University of Technology
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  Internet Governance Project:
>>>  http://internetgovernance.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards.
>> --------------------------
>> Fouad Bajwa
>> @skBajwa
>> Answering all your technology questions
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>
>



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