ICANN Must Account for its Math

Avri Doria avri at LTU.SE
Thu Aug 20 15:32:50 CEST 2009


Hi,

Does the NCUC have an outreach committee or something like that.  Some  
group of talented volunteers who are good at spreading the message and  
bringing new people to the table?  Or has all that work been left to  
the chair?

Obviously amazing things have been done in bringing in new members,  
and if it was done by the chair and the EC in their copious free time  
it is even more amazing.  I do not mean to denigrate what has been  
done, it is amazing, I am just wondering.

thanks
a.



On 19 Aug 2009, at 21:51, Norbert Klein wrote:

> Excellent math research - where does it go, beyond our internal NCUC  
> list? Do we have a PUBLIC wiki or something where facts can be  
> added, updated etc., and one can invite and direct other people (who  
> many not be readers of the NCUC-DISCUSS list) to see these facts?
>
> One of the problem which led to the present crisis is - I think -  
> that we were not organized well enough (like other interests were,  
> who have other resources) to spread our side of the story as it  
> developed.
>
>
> Norbert
>
> =
>
> Robin Gross wrote:
>>
>> The Facts.
>>
>> Commercial Stakeholder Group Membership.
>> According to the Business Constituency's website, they have 44  
>> members.
>> According to the IPR Constituency's website, they have 18 members.
>> According to the ISP Constituency's website, (they don't publish  
>> membership lists and haven't had a post to their email list in  
>> 2009).  But, according the 2006 LSE Report (the last documented  
>> account of the ISP Constituency's membership, they have 42 members.
>>
>> So if we add the membership of these 3 commercial constituencies  
>> together, we get  total of 104 members in the Commercial  
>> Stakeholder Group, who will elect 6 GNSO Councilors.
>>
>> Contrast:
>> NCUC has 142 members but noncommercial users will not be allowed to  
>> elect any of our new GNSO Councilors on the claim that we are too  
>> small to deserve to elect all 6 GNSO Councilors.
>>
>> Did anyone from ICANN staff/SIC do any math before they ruled non- 
>> commercial users are too small to deserve to elect all 6 GNSO  
>> Councilors?
>>   NCSG membership = 142 members (allowed 3 elected representatives)
>>   CSG membership = 104 members (allowed 6 representatives)
>>
>> What was the decision-making process that led to ICANN's  
>> determination that noncommercial users are too small?  Seriously,  
>> we deserve to know how they arrived at that decision and upon what  
>> facts the decision was based - it is our elected representation  
>> that they are meddling with.  ICANN will have to answer this.
>>
>>
>> IP JUSTICE
>> Robin Gross, Executive Director
>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
>> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: robin at ipjustice.org
>>
>>
>>
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