ICANN Must Account for its Math

[Brenden Kuerbis]

Hi Avri,

Please join the Media Team group on the NCUC website, we're just
getting formally organized:

http://ncdnhc.org/group/mediateam


Brenden Kuerbis
Internet Governance Project
http://internetgovernance.org



On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Avri Doria<avri at ltu.se> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does the NCUC have an outreach committee or something like that.  Some group
> of talented volunteers who are good at spreading the message and bringing
> new people to the table?  Or has all that work been left to the chair?
>
> Obviously amazing things have been done in bringing in new members, and if
> it was done by the chair and the EC in their copious free time it is even
> more amazing.  I do not mean to denigrate what has been done, it is amazing,
> I am just wondering.
>
> thanks
> a.
>
>
>
> On 19 Aug 2009, at 21:51, Norbert Klein wrote:
>
>> Excellent math research - where does it go, beyond our internal NCUC list?
>> Do we have a PUBLIC wiki or something where facts can be added, updated
>> etc., and one can invite and direct other people (who many not be readers of
>> the NCUC-DISCUSS list) to see these facts?
>>
>> One of the problem which led to the present crisis is - I think - that we
>> were not organized well enough (like other interests were, who have other
>> resources) to spread our side of the story as it developed.
>>
>>
>> Norbert
>>
>> =
>>
>> Robin Gross wrote:
>>>
>>> The Facts.
>>>
>>> Commercial Stakeholder Group Membership.
>>> According to the Business Constituency's website, they have 44 members.
>>> According to the IPR Constituency's website, they have 18 members.
>>> According to the ISP Constituency's website, (they don't publish
>>> membership lists and haven't had a post to their email list in 2009).  But,
>>> according the 2006 LSE Report (the last documented account of the ISP
>>> Constituency's membership, they have 42 members.
>>>
>>> So if we add the membership of these 3 commercial constituencies
>>> together, we get  total of 104 members in the Commercial Stakeholder Group,
>>> who will elect 6 GNSO Councilors.
>>>
>>> Contrast:
>>> NCUC has 142 members but noncommercial users will not be allowed to elect
>>> any of our new GNSO Councilors on the claim that we are too small to deserve
>>> to elect all 6 GNSO Councilors.
>>>
>>> Did anyone from ICANN staff/SIC do any math before they ruled
>>> non-commercial users are too small to deserve to elect all 6 GNSO
>>> Councilors?
>>>  NCSG membership = 142 members (allowed 3 elected representatives)
>>>  CSG membership = 104 members (allowed 6 representatives)
>>>
>>> What was the decision-making process that led to ICANN's determination
>>> that noncommercial users are too small?  Seriously, we deserve to know how
>>> they arrived at that decision and upon what facts the decision was based -
>>> it is our elected representation that they are meddling with.  ICANN will
>>> have to answer this.
>>>
>>>
>>> IP JUSTICE
>>> Robin Gross, Executive Director
>>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
>>> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
>>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: robin at ipjustice.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>