Draft NCSG petition, please review

Robin Gross robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG
Wed Nov 19 01:09:45 CET 2008


According to ICANN Bylaws on the GNSO Council (Article X, Section 3):

"No two representatives selected by a Constituency shall be citizens
of the same country or of countries located in the same Geographic
Region."

But I agree that we need more flexibility, especially since there may
be changes to the geographical regions and we have 6 seats to fill
and there are currently only 5 regions, so it just wouldn't square to
follow the current bylaws exactly.

Rhanks,
Robin


On Nov 18, 2008, at 7:04 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:

> I support the flexible standard, too. I only said citizenship because
> someone (was it Robin?) told me that ICANN required it. But what the
> heck, let's put the more flexible standard in there and put the
> onus on
> them to make us take it out. Bottom-up self governance and all....
>
> --MM
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Non-Commercial User Constituency [mailto:NCUC-
>> DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Norbert Klein
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:04 AM
>> To: NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Draft NCSG petition, please review
>>
>> On Tuesday, 18 November 2008 11:50:49 William Drake wrote:
>>> ,,,
>>>   One question I do wonder
>>> about though concerns 3.4.5, Regional diversity's criteria,  "as
>>> determined by national citizenship."   Lots of folks don't live in
>>> their home countries, so perhaps a more flexible approach would be
>>> desirable going forward.  Why not "as determined by national
>>> citizenship or residency"?  Is there a history of discussion and
>>> decisions on this from before I joined NCUC that I'm not aware of?
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Bill, to raise the regional diversity criteria - I take up
> this
>> point
>> only from your mail. I had formerly also suggested that this needs
>> clarification (also in view of the fact that other ICANN structures -
> for
>> example the Board - may have their own regional diversity criteria),
> as we
>> have among ourselves (at least) two cases where this may be
>> important:
>>
>> Having worked 18 years in Cambodia (and my Internet related work
>> dates
>> back to
>> 1994 in Cambodia, which I did mainly in cooperation and with advice
> and
>> assistance from others in Asia), I would feel very strange if - for
>> whatever
>> reason - the NCSG would consider me according to the "national
>> citizenship"
>> criterion as a European.
>> And Mary Wong, who is now a GNSO Council member, send by the NCUC,
> might
>> at
>> some other time fulfill some function for the NCSG as an Asian
>> (though
> she
>> is
>> a resident of North America).
>>
>> I think your suggestion  "as determined by national citizenship or
>> residency"
>> would leave us most flexibility, and I support your suggestion.
>>
>>
>> Norbert
>> --
>> If you want to know what is going on in Cambodia,
>> please visit us regularly - you can find something new every day:
>>
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>>
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