Results of the Voting for ALAC Nominating Committee 2008 Appointments

[Danny Younger]

So you consulted with "those in ICANN" and thereafter
removed a duly nominated and confirmed candidate from
the voting roster.  Of course, you choose not to
reveal with whom "in ICANN" you consulted, so we are
to remain unaware of the degree of ICANN's meddling in
an election process for NonCom members.  How very
transparent of you.


--- Robert Guerra <lists at PRIVATERRA.INFO> wrote:

> copy fyi
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Robert Guerra <lists at privaterra.info>
> > Date: September 29, 2007 3:00:34 PM BDT
> > To: At-Large writ small
> <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > Cc: NA Discuss
> <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > Subject: Re: [At-Large] Results of the Voting for
> ALAC Nominating
> > Committee 2008 Appointments
> >
> > Danny:
> >
> > The candidate you proposed was indeed considered,
> but did not make
> > the short list. that was not a personal decision
> of mine, but of
> > the NA ALAC representatives.
> >
> > Informal consultations - due diligence you could
> call it - took
> > place to assess the candidates being proposed, and
> if they would be
> > well suited and able to strategically represent
> users from not only
> > Canada and the USA, but users "everywhere" on the
> nomcom.
> >
> > Your statement that no consultation was done with
> those on NA RALO,
> > is in fact wrong.  Consultations were done with
> key people active
> > on the NA list as well as those in ICANN.
> Consultations were done
> > done privately on a one -to-one basis.
> >
> > I will keep the sources confidential, - they can
> speak out if they
> > wish - but suffice it to say that your  candidate,
> well - got very
> > mixed reviews, in fact some quite negative. Those
> who got far more
> > favorable reviews -  ended up on the short list.
> >
> > As i've mentioned now several times, my person
> view is that the NA
> > Nomcom candidate that - was elected by a large
> majority of ALAC
> > members - will be able to well and strategically
> represent the
> > views from the ALAC on the nomcom. The person in
> is well known to
> > civil society working in ICANN as a person we can
> work with, and
> > who has integrity. We will be well served. He has
> another "hat" -
> > as do many of us as well. So i don't see that as
> an issue in the
> > least.
> >
> >
> > Indeed this whole discussion reminds me on an
> ongoing discussion
> > in Canada related to elections canada's stance on
> allowing veiled
> > women to vote .
> >
> >
>
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/09/10/elections-veils.html
> >
> > It's not for the administrator to settle the
> current societal
> > debate. If I were to do so, I would assume the
> role that does not
> > belong to me, and above all, usurp the role of
> Canada's elected
> > politicians."
> >
> > Currently, I do not believe criteria  exists as to
> who can or can
> > not be a candidate for ALAC to select as its
> nomcom
> > representatives. If you want that changed -
> please, by all means do
> > suggest that ALS's and ALAC change the rules.
> >
> > In summary - Hey, i didn't support your candidate.
> I have that
> > right. Due process was followed, and a good,
> honest and very
> > strategic candidate from Canada was duly elected.
> Please, respect
> > the decision . If you feel the process could have
> been better -
> > please, be constructive and suggest changes so
> that we can improve
> > things going forward.
> >
> >
> > In the meantime, decision has taken place.. let's
> move forward..
> > Let's work with Ross, and take up his offer to
> speak with him on a
> > teleconference. He's keen to hear from the NA
> RALO, and in fact
> > ALAC as a whole on how he can best represent us.
> As he shouldn't
> > hold him to a higher standard - let's also arrange
> consultations
> > with the other ALAC nomcom reps . After all if
> they are supposed to
> > be our representatives, let's make sure they stay
> in touch and
> > consult with us.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29-Sep-07, at 2:16 PM, Danny Younger wrote:
> >> Robert,
> >>
> >> Bottom line:  You removed a duly nominated
> candidate
> >> that was duly confirmed from the voting roster, a
> >> candidate with seven years experience within
> ICANN
> >> defending the public interest, a candidate that
> >> properly submitted his credentials for
> consideration,
> >> and the only confirmed candidate that hailed from
> the
> >> United States... all without any consultation
> with
> >> members of the NARALO discuss list, and without
> member
> >> consent for such action.
> >>
> >> You also introduced a candidate from the supplier
> >> community surreptitiously without any
> consultation
> >> with the membership.  In my view, your actions
> >> demonstrate that you are not fit for holding
> office.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Danny
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Robert Guerra <lists at PRIVATERRA.INFO> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've been away for the last few days and am only
> now
> >>> catching up on
> >>> this list's email...
> >>>
> >>> It seems some questions have been raised as to
> the
> >>> process by which
> >>> the NA ALAC , and in fact ALAC as a whole
> selected
> >>> the nomcom
> >>> candidate from the NA region.
> >>>
> >>> First,let me describe the process -
> >>>
> >>> The NA ALAC reps held  two teleconferences where
> we
> >>> discussed the
> >>> Nomcom candidates. Beau, Alan and I spent
> >>> considerable time
> >>> discussing the i\, the candidates and additional
> >>> persons we might
> >>> want to consider
> >>>
> >>> The candidate pool came from names proposed on
> the
> >>> NA list, as well
> >>> as persons suggested by the NA Regional reps.
> The
> >>> breakdown was thus
> >>> - one person proposed from the NA list, and 5
> >>> persons suggested from
> >>> the ALAC reps. Of the 6 persons, one candidate
> was
> >>> removed as they
> >>> had been elected board liason. the rest were
> >>> contacted to confirm
> >>> that indeed they would be willing and able to
> serve
>
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