Sampa...

Norbert Klein nhklein at GMX.NET
Mon Sep 18 17:05:19 CEST 2006


Thanks, Mawaki, to start the discussion and Carlos, to pick it up.

I have a somewhat bad news (though it is not final) - while my
participation in ICANN/NCUC/GNSO council meetings has been financially
facilitated by the the office of INTIF in the Francophonie, for internal
reasons it is not clear if this will happen for Brazil or not. So if I
would start to plan soon, I would have to have some assurance it can be
mad possible financially.

And I have to add another complication: for reasons of an internal deep
conflict i the Open Forum of Cambodia, all members of the former
Executive Committee (I am one of them) were laid off on 30 June 2006
(=no salary). We are involved in a protracted struggle with the Board
whose term had expired when they dismissed us and took over also
administrative control of the office, that is: it was closed.

Now the expired board members would surely say: I cannot be considered a
bona fide member of the Open Forum of Cambodia (so I may have lost the
basis to be in NCUC). Some other people do not share this view - and at
present there is a stalemate. Don't ask me when it will be solved, and how.

I can report that a colleague in the Open Forum is a member of the
Executive Board of APC - the Association for Progressive Communication.
APC was informed about our situation and said that she should still
participate in the APC Executive Board meeting in Prague - and she
returned from there some days ago. - We hope that there ill be "some"
solution - and APC said this situation should not interrupt their 
Executive Board membership.

So can you please decide on two points:

    Should I be considered out for the time being - or do you want to
    take a similar position as APC? (I would inform the GNSO chair that
    I cannot participate, only if NCUC would decide that I am out at
    present - or maybe the NCUC chair should do this and have a
    replacement for me.)

    If this decision would be positive - what kind of travel support
    would be possible? - I am not aware what the GNSO/ICANN position on
    travel support is at present.

Sorry, compas, that I come with such difficult questions. You cannot
imagine how life was since about June - and what a stress it is to be in
this struggle.


Norbert

Anybody interested in what World Bank etc. say about the state of law in
Cambodia, and how many points "good governance" went down compared to
2004 and 2005? Very practical questions for some of us, at present. We
may even face (ridiculously constructed) legal problems.
=


Carlos Afonso wrote:
> Olá, meu caro Mawaki,
>
> I am posting my reply to the list since this ought to be the concern
> of several other NCUCers. You are right, travel tickets to/from Brazil
> are at a premium since Varig's near collapse, and flights seem to be
> full.
>
> We are trying our best to organize the right to privacy meeting in São
> Paulo with FGV, but so far this did not advance well. Milton suggests
> we do the privacy meeting together with a session on whois, and I agree.
>
> Hope to have better news during this week on this meeting.
>
> In any case, we will have our usual NCUC meeting, so I think all the
> ones wanting to come to SP should make the preparations and check with
> our treasurer on the possible funds available as well as the
> procedures. By all means at least our three GNSO council members
> should come to SP.
>
> fraternal regards
>
> --c.a.
>
> ps for the ones who do not know much about BR: "Sampa" is the friendly
> nickname of the city of São Paulo :)
>
> Mawaki Chango wrote:
>> Alo compa, todo bom?
>>
>> queria dizer por Sao Paulo, seria possivel organizar o nosso ExCo
>> para tomar uma decisao mais cedo sobre a ajuda financiera de
>> participacao? as tarefas de bilhete andao augmentando cada vez mais,
>> e seria tambem melhor para os finances da NCUC de fazer planos mais
>> cedo.
>>
>> abroco,
>>
>> Mawaki
>>
>> .
>>
>


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