[governance] First Draft of Statement on US Commerce Department/GAC chair intervention
Adam Peake
ajp at GLOCOM.AC.JP
Fri Aug 19 14:11:32 CEST 2005
Milton, don't see why GAC's request was against
any defined procedure. But perhaps I
misunderstand the bylaws. Please explain.
It's irritating, it indicates problems with the
process, but where does it say GAC can't make a
request of this kind? It wasn't totally
unexpected, still a surprise, but as some
governments in Luxembourg made strong concerns
known, more (those who obviously hadn't followed
any of the ICANN process) made very strong
complaints during WGIG discussion, it wasn't out
of the blue.
When was the agenda of the August 16 board
meeting announced? i.e. when would governments
have known that a board decision on xxx was
imminent? Veni, can you tell us.
I don't see GAC and NTIA acting in concert. US
may have been one govt to ask GAC to ask for a
delay, but there are very strong indications they
were not the only ones.
For the rest, all been said by Izumi, Ian, Bill, Veni, Ewan...
This is a very important issue. But at the moment
I'd rather wait and see what happens between now
and September 15 and at the meeting on September
15 than try to produce any hard hitting
statement. We don't know enough.
I wouldn't be unhappy to see a statement warning
ICANN of our concerns, set things up for a
statement should our fears be realized. And
criticizing NTIA for what I think was unfair an
inappropriate pressure, particularly when quoting
a bunch of from letters from one of the
administration's basest political lobbies.
Thanks,
Adam
At 7:16 PM -0400 8/18/05, Milton Mueller wrote:
>Avri:
>Thank you for engaging in discussion and for not trying to foreclose
>it.
>I answer your questions below.
>
>>>> Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> 08/18/05 5:43 PM >>>
>>The indication is that this is against the rules.
>
>The GAC/DoC intervention did not follow defined procedures for offering
>policy advice. You could call that a break in the rules.
>
>But the more important point is that it represents an arbitrary and
>politically motivated deviation from what ICANN said its process would
>be. ICANN laid out its TLD RFP, application and approval process in
>October 2003. Everybody planned according to those procedures. Now it's
>throwing them aside. That's bad. .net was another example (see below) -
>apparently you understood the significance of that case.
>
>ICANN probably has the legal authority to not move forward with
>finalization of the contract, but you can definitely expect a lawsuit
>from ICM Registry if they turn them down on reconsideration, and at the
>point there will be a long and interesting dialogue about what rules
>were broken or not.
>
>>Also if I understand correctly, and i admit i might not,
>>they are not specifically asking for the decision to be rescinded
>>just for time before negotiating the contract. Now, i can see how
>>this might amount to the essentially the same thing, but not
>>necessarily.
>
>I think you understand that correctly. And I am saying, for civil
>society to remain silent during that period is really, really
>incomprehensible. We have to make known our concerns.
>
>>While i understand the issue when seen from the perspective of undue
>
>>influence, I know that i generally value flexibilty, and was very
>>happy, e.g., when the ICANN Board and Verisign indicated willingness
>
>>to renegotiate elements of a signed contract. and I know that I want
>
>>the board to be subject to a lot a review before they sign any
>contract.
>
>Actually you are reinforcing our point.
>
>The reason the VeriSign contract had to be revisited was that ICANN
>very definitely broke its own procedure by not posting the changed
>contract to permit public comment. In other words, it denied the
>community the opportunity to express it views on the changes in the .net
>contract by revising its procedures on the fly. Not to mention the other
>procedural parade of horribles documented by the Register and others
>regarding how the .net process seemed deliberately skewed to favor
>VeriSign.
>
>Now if ICANN had somehow DENIED the GAC an opportunity to participate
>in the sTLD approvals by being shifty then I would definitely be on the
>side of GAC in this dispute. But in this case the opposite is happening.
>GAC wants to suspend the rules because it doesn't like the result and
>didn't bother to get engaged when it could.,
>
>>In other words I do worry about sending a self-conflicting message:
>>we like it when you reconsider decisions aexcept for when we don't.
>
>I hope you can see now that there is no inconsistency. The revolt
>against the VeriSign .net contract was a revolt against shifting
>procedures that make it impossible for people to know what the rules are
>and how to participate. It is the same issue here.
>
>
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