PIR and stability and consumer protection?

[Harold Feld]

As I have said, I think it is appropriate for the Consticuency to ask
the registry.  This utilizes ICANN as a forum for discussion without the
need to trigger a regulatory-type process.

What is needed at the moment is dialog, not regulation.  I am less
worried about a mandatory "stop" process than in inviting PIR to discuss
the issue.  I hope they will welcome the opportunity for input and
discussion.

Harold

Thierry Amoussougbo wrote:

>Dear all,
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>I think that it is difficult to react now because ICANN did not agree on
>this and also we did not say anything to stop it as NCC. ?
>If you think that we can use official procedure for this kind of situation
>let us use it. If not I'm not seeing how we can stop this because it was
>not authorized.
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>Best regards.
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>
>Thierry H. Amoussougbo
>Regional Adviser
>Development Information Services Division
>United Nations Economic Commission for Africa
>Tel: 251 1 511167 ext 33053
>Fax: 251 1 510512
>E-mail : tamoussougbo at uneca.org
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>                      Marc Schneiders
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>                      08/01/2004 05:03 PM
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>Perhaps more than a footnote to the present discussion of "Approval
>process for gtld service changes": PIR is going to delete all
>multilingual domains (also called IDN) on February 2004. I learned
>about this through the newsletter of a German registrar (quote below).
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>I have protested earlier about the silent end to resolution (working
>DNS) of these domains in March 2003. PIR was not very responsive, to
>put it mildly. Now again there will be a secret change to these
>domains. They will quietly disappear. I see no message about it on the
>PIR website.
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>I am of the opinion that this is unacceptable in several respects:
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>1. Registrants are not notified. I have such a domain and I heard
>nothing.
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>2. It is done in a most intransparent, even secret manner.
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>3. It is related to the redelegation of a TLD. Will the same thing
>happen in 2005 with .NET?
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>4. Multilingual domains were a private initiative of Verisign, not
>approved by ICANN, but neither did ICANN tell Verisign not to do it.
>In this context it is most relevant for the "approval process" topic.
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>5. PIR kills .ORG multilinguals for technical reasons, it says (well
>the German text below does). At the same time Afilias (which runs .ORG
>technically) is introducing multilingual .INFO domains. Can anyone
>explain this to me, please?
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>>From newsletter of dd24.net:
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>PIR wird multilinguale .ORG Domains nun doch löschen
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>Nach einer anders lautenden Meldung im November hat uns das kürzlich
>ernannte Zentralregister für .ORG Domains, Public Interest Registry
>(PIR),
>jetzt darüber informiert, dass die Registrierungen der nach dem
>ehemaligen
>"RACE-Verfahren" eingetragenen multilingualen .ORG Domains (also
>Domains mit
>Umlauten bzw. Sonderzeichen) doch nicht länger kostenlos verlängert
>werden.
>Stattdessen hat sich PIR für eine Löschung aller multilingualen .ORG
>Domains
>zum 1. Februar 2004 entschieden.
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>Gründe für diese Entscheidung sind insbesondere die technischen
>Schwierigkeiten und Unsicherheiten der zukünftigen Umwandlung der
>bereits
>registrierten Domains in das neue "Punycode-Verfahren".
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>Nun muss zunächst einmal geklärt werden, auf welche Weise eine
>Neueinführung
>multilingualer .ORG Domains gemäß des allgemeinen Standarts zukünftig
>überhaupt durchgeführt werden soll. Wir sind gespannt...
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>Quelle: PIR
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