PIR and stability and consumer protection?

Thierry Amoussougbo TAmoussougbo at UNECA.ORG
Fri Jan 9 06:21:15 CET 2004


Dear all,

I second alos the letter initiative.

Thierry H. Amoussougbo
Regional Adviser
Development Information Services Division
United Nations Economic Commission for Africa
Tel: 251 1 511167 ext 33053
Fax: 251 1 510512
E-mail : tamoussougbo at uneca.org



                                                                                                          
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As a non-native speaker of English I may say things too strongly... In
any case, I would like the letter you suggest also to include a
request for clarification about why PIR is doing away with IDN names
in .ORG and why in such a secret way, both in March 2003, when
resolution suddenly stopped and now again, esp. since so far PIR has
promised to let these domains hibernate until some final encoding for
IDNs is approved.

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, at 10:16 [=GMT-0500], Harold Feld wrote:

> It seems to me that perhaps it is appropriate for the executive
> committee of the consticuency to send a polite letter of inquiry from
> the consticuency to PIR asking if the notification is correct and, if
> so, what steps will be taken to inform and mitigate hardship to the
> non-commercial user who registered for these names in good faith.
>
> Harold Feld
>
> Marc Schneiders wrote:
>
> >Perhaps more than a footnote to the present discussion of "Approval
> >process for gtld service changes": PIR is going to delete all
> >multilingual domains (also called IDN) on February 2004. I learned
> >about this through the newsletter of a German registrar (quote below).
> >
> >I have protested earlier about the silent end to resolution (working
> >DNS) of these domains in March 2003. PIR was not very responsive, to
> >put it mildly. Now again there will be a secret change to these
> >domains. They will quietly disappear. I see no message about it on the
> >PIR website.
> >
> >I am of the opinion that this is unacceptable in several respects:
> >
> >1. Registrants are not notified. I have such a domain and I heard
> >nothing.
> >
> >2. It is done in a most intransparent, even secret manner.
> >
> >3. It is related to the redelegation of a TLD. Will the same thing
> >happen in 2005 with .NET?
> >
> >4. Multilingual domains were a private initiative of Verisign, not
> >approved by ICANN, but neither did ICANN tell Verisign not to do it.
> >In this context it is most relevant for the "approval process" topic.
> >
> >5. PIR kills .ORG multilinguals for technical reasons, it says (well
> >the German text below does). At the same time Afilias (which runs .ORG
> >technically) is introducing multilingual .INFO domains. Can anyone
> >explain this to me, please?
> >
> >>From newsletter of dd24.net:
> >
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >PIR wird multilinguale .ORG Domains nun doch löschen
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >
> >Nach einer anders lautenden Meldung im November hat uns das kürzlich
> >ernannte Zentralregister für .ORG Domains, Public Interest Registry
> >(PIR),
> >jetzt darüber informiert, dass die Registrierungen der nach dem
> >ehemaligen
> >"RACE-Verfahren" eingetragenen multilingualen .ORG Domains (also
> >Domains mit
> >Umlauten bzw. Sonderzeichen) doch nicht länger kostenlos verlängert
> >werden.
> >Stattdessen hat sich PIR für eine Löschung aller multilingualen .ORG
> >Domains
> >zum 1. Februar 2004 entschieden.
> >
> >Gründe für diese Entscheidung sind insbesondere die technischen
> >Schwierigkeiten und Unsicherheiten der zukünftigen Umwandlung der
> >bereits
> >registrierten Domains in das neue "Punycode-Verfahren".
> >
> >Nun muss zunächst einmal geklärt werden, auf welche Weise eine
> >Neueinführung
> >multilingualer .ORG Domains gemäß des allgemeinen Standarts zukünftig
> >überhaupt durchgeführt werden soll. Wir sind gespannt...
> >
> >Quelle: PIR
> >
> >
>
>






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