[ncdnhc-discuss] Some Comments on Lynn's Proposal in Accra NCDNHC meeting!

[Dany Vandromme]

Thanks for this extended report.
Will be happy to get also Hans comments/Notes
Cheers
Dany


"Alejandro Pisanty - DGSCA y FQ, UNAM" wrote:
> 
> Dear Adam,
> 
> quick summary. Starts around the end of Andy Mueller Maguhn's
> presentation, ie about 1 hr into the meeting or so.
> 
> Andy described the Board process so far as driven by staff, and stated
> that the Directors are either shy or just approve what is given to them. I
> took exception to this and other statements fo his.
> 
> AP (I) made a statement describing Lynn's proposal and asking for input on
> specific aspects of it, trying to go beyond primary reactions. For
> example, assume the report's proposals are carried through. What would be
> the best implementations, what would be the safeguards for non-commercial
> principles, etc.?
> 
> Norbert Klein. Appreciate talking of principles. need to see framework of
> principles behind Lynn's proposal. Use White Paper as basis. Question of
> govtl participation.
> 
> Echeberria. Views Lynn proposal as complete failure. Accepts consensus on
> identification of important problems. Makes three points:
> 
> 1. Governments may not provide solution for funding. Funding should come
> from gTLDs, RIRs, and ccTLDs.
> 
> 2. Loops for governance in proposal (AP objecction/clarification: loops
> are not closed)
> 
> 3. Disagrees on where in the structure problems reside.
> 
> Courtney. Echo that Lynn dentifies right problems. Asks for narrow mission
> definition. Acknowledges that govts worldwide are becoming activist re
> Internet. Flags opportunity for NCDNHC contribution to participatory
> structure. Need to find out how to have acctive participation, role,
> voice.
> 
> Jonathan Cohen. Principles are important. White Paper is a blueprint and
> may need adjustment. About governemnts: they are there, and active. Naive
> to think ICANN can just proceed w/o them. Govts may provide checks and
> balances for each other, , watchdog effect. Directors want to asssess
> inputs themselves.
> 
> Mueller Maguhn, to Cohen. Need blance between users and infrastructure
> providers.
> 
> Kleinwaechter. ICANN expoeriment in course, present debate needed. Give
> stakeholders a say; question is how to balance interest. Naive to think
> you can avoid intergovtl horse-trading. Was involved in UNESCO;
> intellectuals were displaced by diplomats. Difficult to get money from
> govts, which may rather go to ITU/UN. If you eclude people they will
> self-organize.. Better be inclusive.
> 
> I omit some AP comments made during the meeting excpet breifly: structure
> proposed by Lynn similar to that of universities in many countries.
> Contains checks and balances, is open to refreshing and renewal, can
> include all productive inputs and people in governance positions. Klein
> objects that it alsoreminds him of Eastern European govts of some time
> ago. AP reply is that openness of system is key remedy.
> 
> Unfortunately I did not record some comments by Hans Klein in my notebook.
> Wld be glad to read his summary too.
> 
> I should add that there were a couple of procedural buneles, like
> discussing a motion which had been discarded, and not checking for right
> to vote. Motions that did not carry were those on .org consumer
> porotection.
> 
> YJ made a motion for the prompt divestiture of .org. Since she herself
> expressed she is in a position of conflict of interest on this matter
> (even while she was on the Names Council this position had already
> appeared) the constituency only took note.
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Alejandro Pisanty
> 
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