[ncdnhc-discuss] RE: [ALSC-Forum] RE: what version of at large are you suggesting we support?

Jefsey Morfin jefsey at wanadoo.fr
Sun Mar 3 17:46:23 CET 2002


On 11:43 03/03/02, Esther Dyson said:
>In short, the ALSC is our ally, even though you may not agree with every 
>single point of its recommendations.

Dear Esther,
we do not agree with any points of its recommendations. You tried through 
the ALSC, it failed. You try it here. I have no problem with an alliance 
with you: to stand it has to be on clear grounds.

Dear Danny,
your boasting of this situation is good. But I proposed to act seriously. 
You agreed. How do you want us to proceed?

Dear Cecilly,
thank you for your proposition. It gives a good wording base.
In spite of what Jeff may think I never give up the intent to see the 
@large incorporated in France or anywher else. But all what I see right now 
is ICANNbis versus ICANN II.
I am not interested: ICANN is sick of itself. Let cure it or let it die.

The sickness of ICANN is to be inapropriate to the Internet. To centralize. 
The proposed bylaws unfortuntely follow the same approach. Much similar to 
Joe Sim's. One BoD and a Staff wanting to rule the world through 
ALM/Gov/corp organisations.

ICANN has to be a small secretariat part of the Internet Governance. It has 
to serve and paid by the Internet Particpants Networks for what it brings 
to them. The @large secretariat and organization must also be alongthe same 
architecture or it will fail. We do not want to be the ICANN Army that 
Joop's ALSC text prepares.

I am not interested in an @large BoD/ALSC with Esther, Pindar, Thomas 
Roessler etc... and an @large Staff under Joop Teernstra acting in gthe 
interest of Educause, Virmation, Bildbergers, etc pulling the strings of a 
1001 @large list.

@large is the first time ever an International Network Association. We must 
work out its legal constitution. This is not simple at all. Joe Sims failed 
and he his good lawyer.

We must proceed step by step. Starting respond simple questions first:
- what is this about?
- what do we want to achieve?
- for who?
- who will be the bosses?
- where do we want to fit in the gouvernance? (I keep the French word to 
differentiate the French/English mening from the American/Business 
confusing drift).
- who is involved?
- how do we want to get funded?
- what are the driving forces? how do we want to address them towards a 
consensus?
- are we in hurry for something or working on the long range?
- what are our outreach targets? how do we want to achieve them?

"Keep slow: we are in hurry" (Talleyrand).
Jefsey
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