[ncdnhc-discuss] Who's going to Bucharest?

[Erick Iriarte]

Bueno

La verdad es que no se como expresar lo que dice en ingles, asi que lo hago 
en español, con el deseo que me puedan entender todos.

Lo cierto es que las diferencias entre organizaciones de paises en 
desarrollo y los de paises desarrollados, hacen que la participacion de 
non-commercial desde los paises en desarrollo se vea limitada para: viajar 
tanto, mantener gente en las reuniones del ICANN. Asimismo las 
organizaciones de soporte se encuentran limitadas para los recursos.

Con la limitante de no contar con los fondos que antes se tenian, se tiene 
pues que la participacion del Adcom del NCDNC se enfrenta a una 
participacion remota. Ciertamente que las reuniones presenciales son utiles 
y necesarias, pero esta vez tocara hacerla de teleconferencia ( a menos que 
aparezca un milagro y consiga fondos).

No cierto es que el proceso de reforma transformara algunas constituencias 
en foros de debate, si es que ya no se han convertido en eso mucho antes.

Debe plantearse una ligazon muy estrecha entre los ccTLD's y los 
Non-commercial teniendo en cuenta que muchas de las organizaciones de los 
ccTLD's son non-commercial (como universidades, redes academicas, ong's 
entre otras).

Es importante que mientras no haya una reforma y se considere la estructura 
como hasta ahora, el Staff del ICANN, con los fondos que cuenta (porque los 
cuenta), considere la opción de soportar la participación de los 
Non-Commercial. Tambien que quede claro que no se debe hacer la del mendigo 
aun teniendo recursos. Tenemos estructuras no-commerciales muy fuertes 
(politicamente y economicamente) en esta constituency que pueden ayudar, y 
que deben sopesar que es lo primario, si tener una lista de correo de 
discusion o una verdadera participacion

De otro lado es importante que se deban pagar las cuotas, aquellos que 
puedan, porque? porque hay un compromiso de hacerlo, tenemos que hacer el 
esfuerzo.

Creo que muchos no entenderan este mensaje, la verdad es que no sabria como 
escribir todo esto en ingles.

Saludos

Erick Iriarte Ahon




At 01:17 p.m. 05/06/2002 -0400, Manon Ress wrote:
>Dear NCDHC colleagues,
>Who in the NCDHC is going to Bucharest?
>PS
>I know Jamie Love is going.
>Manon
>Thanks to Alan for the following story:
>
> >               WARREN'S WASHINGTON INTERNET DAILY
> >
> >   Wednesday, June 5, 2002                    Vol. 3, No. 108
>...
> >ICANN MEETING will be minus many civil society participants.  (P.
> >4)
>...
> >Foundations Reassess Roles
> >
> >  Funding Woes, Disillusionment Keep Nonprofits from Bucharest
> >
> >      Faced with shrinking funds and a growing sense of
> >disillusionment over how ICANN works, some civil society groups
> >say they won't attend the next ICANN meeting, set for June 24-28
> >in Bucharest.  The lack of financial backing from philanthropic
> >organizations means no members of the advisory committee (AdCom)
> >to the Domain Name Supporting Organization's (DNSO) Noncommercial
> >Domain Name Holders Constituency(NCDNHC) will be heading to
> >Romania unless something changes, said Harold Feld, assoc. dir. of
> >the Media Access Project (MAP) and a member of the NCDNHC AdCom.
> >That's "profoundly unfortunate," he said.  Milton Mueller, a
> >NCDNHC representative to the DNSO Names Council, also won't be
> >attending.  "[T]he level of effort that must be invested to
> >attempt to influence ICANN's processes internally is far too great
> >for any possible return," Mueller said, "and besides, the
> >processes and structures are already rigged against us."  ICANN
> >didn't respond by our deadline to a request for comment.
> >
> >      Travel costs to ICANN meetings often have been met by the
> >Ford and Markle Foundations (Markle funds travel to ICANN meetings
> >through the Salzburg Seminar).  Now, however, Ford is said to be
> >reassessing its entire media policy area and Markle and the
> >Seminar are revisiting their roles in Internet issues, we're told.
> >No other foundations are "stepping up to bat" either, a
> >knowledgeable source said.  And even organizations with their own
> >separate general operating funds for travel are rethinking the
> >need to send representatives to ICANN meetings, Feld said.  Given
> >their "great deal of concern as to whether ICANN will listen" to
> >the noncommercial community, some nonprofits are finding meetings
> >not a very fruitful investment, he said.
> >
> >      The shortfall is evidence of "the larger issue," which is
> >that increasingly, when civil society groups ask for money and
> >resources, ICANN is looking less and less like a good bet, said
> >Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) Policy Analyst Rob
> >Courtney.  Many groups are becoming convinced that they don't
> >accomplish anything by going to ICANN meetings, he said.  The
> >"combination of extraordinarily inaccessible locations" for ICANN
> >meetings and "zero" influence in the process make it unproductive
> >for noncommercial constituents to participate any more, said Hans
> >Klein, chmn. of Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility.
> >Instead, he said, they will focus on the Dept. of Commerce to
> >ensure that it enforces its Memorandum of Understanding with
> >ICANN.
> >
> >      Both Markle and the Salzburg Seminar say they haven't lost
> >interest in ICANN.  "Our commitment to Internet governance remains
> >undiminished," a Markle spokesman said.  Markle has given close to
> >$225,000 to the Seminar for nonprofits to attend ICANN meetings
> >since 1999, including the March meeting in Ghana, he said.  So
> >far, however, the Seminar hasn't applied for funding to send the
> >various groups to Bucharest, he said.  "We are not saying we feel
> >[ICANN] is an uninteresting or diminished organization," he said,
> >or that Markle wouldn't fund requests that came its way.
> >
> >      Before ICANN Pres. Stuart Lynn released his ICANN reform
> >proposal, the Salzburg Seminar was beginning to feel a "level of
> >frustration" over ICANN's frequent meetings that ended without any
> >significant movement, and the length of time it was taking the
> >noncommercial community to solidify its activities, said Kevin
> >Hurley, dir.-program support.  Post-Ghana, he said, as ICANN began
> >to transition to a new structure, both Markle and the Seminar
> >decided to reassess what their roles should be in the Internet and
> >ICANN policy arenas.  Markle is focusing more on Internet policy
> >in the larger context (such as the World Trade Organization and
> >the United Nations), Hurley said, while the Seminar, which looks
> >at ICANN issues from the program level, is trying to figure out
> >where nongovernmental organizations will fit in to the ICANN
> >process after reform.  Because of that, he said, the Seminar
> >decided not to fund any travel to Bucharest.  However, he said,
> >the organization "fully expects" to seek funding for the next
> >meeting, set for Shanghai, China, in Oct.  "Good for him," Hurley
> >said of Lynn's decision to stir up what was becoming a static
> >organization -- thereby forcing the Seminar and others to rethink
> >their own programs. -- Dugie Standeford
>
>
>
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