[ncdnhc-discuss] Joe Sims repsonds to criticism of Reform document

[Dave Crocker]

At 09:11 AM 6/1/2002 -0400, James Love wrote:
>demonstrated to not command consensus support in the ICANN community."
>Actually, the ICANN GA just voted 3 to 1 in favor of a motion I proposed
>asking the DoC to rebid the ICANN contracts, so I'm not sure what his point
>is here.

non-representative sampling leads to non-representative results.  the GA is 
non-representative of much having to do with the real world of ICANN.


>Joe also says I have a discredited view that anything other than "direct
>elections is unacceptable for world democracy."   In Thursdays' Washington
>Post, Stuart Lynn characterised those asking for rebid of the DoC ICANN
>contracts as a "group that is trying to transform ICANN from a limited
>technical body into a worldwide experiment in global democracy," which is
>funny, because the whole fight is how to actually have meaningful limits on
>ICANN,

as has been pointed out to you quite a few times, it is folks like you -- 
and not any ICANN staff or board -- who are constantly focusing on matters 
far beyond ICANN's scope.  by emphasizing that larger scope, you make it 
apply to icann.  hence, you -- not icann -- are increasing the scope, as 
Lynn stated.


>and keep ICANN out of the politics or non-technical policy making.

your contributions to icann discussions are nothing but political.  in fact 
you make a point of dismissing all technical matters.


>   I
>personally would be happy if ICANN was so reduced in power that one one
>cared who was on the board of directors

take a look at the actual level of public involvement in icann, compared 
with the scale of the total Internet population, and you will discover that 
by any reasonable measure, no one really does care.

d/

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