[ncdnhc-discuss] Re: Mission creep and consumer protection

[James Love]

>From Netsol

    airtravel.tv    $1,500 per year
    fleet.tv              450 per year
    airlines.coop   2 years for $160


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Weinberg" <weinberg at mail.msen.com>
To: "James Love" <love at cptech.org>
Cc: "Milton Mueller" <Mueller at syr.edu>; <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>;
<discuss at icann-ncc.org>; <tbyfield at panix.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] Re: Mission creep and consumer protection


> Jamie --
>
> The registry contracts for all of the gTLDs set maximum registry
> prices.  See, e.g.,
> <http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/pro/registry-agmt-appg-11mar01.htm>
> (Registry Operator Maximum Price Schedule for .PRO).
>
> Jon
>
>
> Jonathan Weinberg
> weinberg at msen.com
>
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, James Love wrote:
>
> > I would like to respond to Milton's comments on who is doing what about
> > various consumer protection issues.  I agree that there is attention to
> > issues that concern rival registrars, such as slaming issues.   But I
> > haven't seen much about how registry prices are regulated by ICANN.  If
> > there is a solution to this, I would like to know what it is,
particularly
> > given some big differences in registry prices in different tlds, and the
> > fact that historical policies on .org, .net and .com were determined by
DOC,
> > but DOC was not involved in pricing of the new TLDs and pricing of
ccTLDs
> > have been all over the map.    Jamie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Milton Mueller" <Mueller at syr.edu>
> > To: <love at cptech.org>; <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>
> > Cc: <discuss at icann-ncc.org>; <tbyfield at panix.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] Re: Mission creep and consumer protection
> >
> >
> > > >>> "Alejandro Pisanty - DGSCA y FQ, UNAM" <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>
> > 02/10/02 12:45PM >>>
> > > > there is a difference between doing things in such a way that does
not
> > > > harm consumers and becoming a consumer protection agency. The first
> > > > is a policy issue and I'm all ears for input. The second is mission
> > creep,
> > >
> > > There may be a difference, but it sits somewhere on a slippery slope.
> > > The "transfers" task force provides a perfect example. Is Verisign
> > > abusing its hold on registrants by refusing to let go of names that
> > > people want to transfer? Or is Verisign protecting people against
> > > "slammers" who try to transfer names without authorization?
> > >
> > > More deeply, if it is ICANN's job to create and enforce a
> > > vertical separation between registrar and registry in order to
> > > encourage "competition" and "portability" of domain names -
> > > a job it aggressively assumed from its earliest days -
> > > then along with that goes the responsibility to define a fair,
> > > secure and efficient procedure for transfering names.
> > > Consumer protection has to be an element of that.
> > >
> > > Once ICANN has gotten into the business of defining and
> > > enforcing competition policy why shouldn't suppliers come to
> > > it and complain that certain practices are anti-competitive?
> > > And if suppliers can come to ICANN asking it to regulate the
> > > industry differently (and believe me, they do it daily)
> > > then why can't consumers come to it and complain about suppliers?
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with what Jamie is saying is the
> > > "Rip Van Winkle" element:
> > >
> > > He is assuming that no one else in NCDNHC has noticed it. In
> > > fact, we have been on this for some time. Some
> > > people are just waking up to it.
> > >
> > > --MM
> > >
> > >
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