[ncdnhc-discuss] Names council candidates

[Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law]

I think you are correct in this observation.  And this is one of the great
failings of ICANN: the people who created it sought over and over again to
keep the end-user at arms length (which would be fine for *technical*
coordination) while engaging in *social* coordination (e.g. dispute
policies, detailed contracts for registries).  It thus becomes part of
some participants' dogma (but by no means all) to even deny that this
tension exists.  

Organizing a social policy body as if it were a technical standards body
not sensible or stable. It has created serious instability in the Internet
(e.g. growth of would-be alternatives to an inclusive root, politicization
of technical bodies such as IAB).  I invite you to join us at
http://www.icannwatch.org where we debate and lament these trends.

(My solution, by the way, is to stop making the social policy, but
organizations tend over time to grow their budgets and their ambitions.)

I'm afraid that's all for today; off to work.

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Chun Eung Hwi wrote:

> Dear Alejandro,
> 
> Without the participation of users or consumers, technical coordination
> could not be completed. I think you misunderstand the expression of
> "against corporation" which I have never used but "consumers
> or customers against providers". This is simply consumers versus
> providers. And it is very basic assumption in social analysis.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chun Eung Hwi  
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Chun Eung Hwi
> General Secretary, PeaceNet | phone:     (+82) 2- 583-3033
> Seoul Yangchun P.O.Box 81   |   pcs:     (+82) 019-259-2667 
> Seoul, 158-600, Korea       | eMail:   ehchun at peacenet.or.kr   
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Alejandro Pisanty - CUAED y FQ, UNAM wrote:
> 
> > Eung Hwi,
> > 
> > where did you get this idea that the At Large is meant to put people
> > against corporations? It is at variation even with the concepts that
> > created the DNSO.
> > 
> > Alejandro Pisanty
> > 
> > 
> > .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
> >      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> > UNAM  -  Educacion Abierta y a Distancia
> > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
> > Tel. (+52-5) 622-8713, 622-8633 Fax 550-8405
> > 
> > http://www.cuaed.unam.mx
> > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, www.isocmex.org.mx, www.isoc.org
> > =====>>> Participa en ICANN, www.icann.org
> > ---->> Internet y Sociedad? www.istf.org
> > .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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