[ncdnhc-discuss] Esther Dyson on the Agenda Change

Jefsey Morfin jefsey at wanadoo.fr
Thu Oct 11 16:51:27 CEST 2001


Dear Norbert,
I started a cross candidate campaign during the BoD DNSO election, I hope 
that Amadeu will pursue - he was on vacations when I proposed it. It is 
that every ICANN or govenance proposition includes a small part explaining 
how help reducing the financial, lingual and digital divide.

This is not much. But if it became a cultural reflex in the Internet 
Govenance, I suppose it would help many to get real, to avoid a lot of 
uncessary debates and to get better security and stability for the 
Internet, while really helping the true world's development. USA only 
represent 4% of the world population: the internet is first a way to live 
together.

Jefsey.


On 06:47 11/10/01, Norbert Klein said:
>Barbara Simons wrote:
>
> > I agree.  Esther's article is also accepting of other outrageous
> > provisions of the ALSC report, such as requiring people
> > to have domain names in order to vote and charging them
> > "a small fee ($5 to $15) to cover the costs of registering
> > voters and running the election."  She then goes on to say that
> > they will try to find "outside organizations" to cover the fee for
> > those who can't afford it.  Yea, sure.
> >
> > In the Southern United States during the time that African
> > Americans were not allowed to vote, one of the techniques
> > used to disenfranchise them was a poll tax.  People had to
> > pay in order to be allowed to vote.  It's a terrific way to
> > prevent the poor from voting.
> >
> > Not only is $5 to $15 a significant sum of money for people
> > living in some countries, but the entire notion is poorly
> > thought through.  How does the ALSC propose that the
> > funds be collected?  Through credit card transactions?
> > How do they propose to deal with weak local currencies?
> >
>
>The monthly salary of a teacher in Cambodia is around US$30.
>
>Since the Ministry of Post and Telecommunications took over the DNS
>administration (which I had done for free) in 1998, the registration of a
>domain under .kh cost $200, then "only" $160 for the first two years. (And
>there were no international credit cards available in Cambodia to pay the $70
>for a registration abroad.)
>
>Now, since you can get a domain for $8.95 from GoDaddy at .com etc., the DNS
>registration in Cambodia goes down since 1st of October to $70 for the first
>two years.
>
>To get "assistance from outside (from whom?) organizations for those who
>cannot pay" - the administration of such an effort might cost more than the
>costs. To cash a check in Cambodia coming from abroad costs often $20 to $25
>(even if the amount on the check is less).
>
>Just to share what this means for people in situations similar to ours.
>
>Norbert Klein
>Phnom Penh/Cambodia
>
>====
>
> >
> > The ALSC committee was stacked by the conscious
> > decision not to include any strong supporter of
> > strengthening the voice of the At-Large through
> > representation (at least half of the ICANN Board
> > members should be elected by the At-Large) and
> > democratic elections.  The final report demonstrates
> > how very effective this stacking was.
> >
> > Barbara
> >
> > "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, the essay is really annoying: it presents the six (basically a
> > > ratification of the decisions ED voted for when on the Board) as a
> > > COMPROMISE, when in fact it's siding with one side.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Milton Mueller wrote:
> > >
> > > > >From her newsletter:
> > > >
> > > > (I hope this is "fair use"!)
> > > >
> > > > ICANN has just announced that the agency's annual
> > > > meeting next month, which was supposed to include
> > > > a decision on the ALSC's recommendations, will focus
> > > > on security issues. That sounds very nice -- responsive
> > > > to current conditions and so forth -- but it ends up delaying
> > > > more pressing issues.
> > > >
> > > > Security is important, and ICANN's member organization¯
> > > > -- technical developers, Internet service providers,
> > > > address and domain name registries and registrars -- should
> > > > certainly work together on security issues. But most of
> > > > what they need to do is fairly specific and beyond the
> > > > purview of a policy and standards body. ICANN and its
> > > > members do need to be aware of security issues, but the
> > > > details -- especially for ensuring the integrity of the root
> > > > servers, which are the foundation of the Domain Name
> > > > System probably should NOT be discussed in public.
> > > > Regardless,accomplishing these things requires staff and
> > > > technical expert time ¯ not a lot of discussion at the board
> > > > level.
> >
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