[ncdnhc-discuss] Re: Why is "Marketing ccTLDs as generics" on NC Agenda?

[Marc Schneiders]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, at 12:26 [=GMT-0700], Vany Martinez wrote:

> Jonathan:
> 
> I have never asked to talk about Alternate Roots.
> Again this was another confusion from who draft the
> agenda.
> 
> Let call with proper names the things:
> 1.  An Alternate Root involves a server independent
> from the actual roots that is resolving TLDs (.TRAVEL,
> .GAME, .KIDS, etc, for example) different than the
> ones created by ICANN, without using any technology of
> masquerading an existent domain name within the actual
> existent TLDs (.COM, .ORG, etc...).
> 
> 2. The subject I am addressing is not Alternate Roots.
> The subject I am addresing is the launching of
> services as New.net and other Companies that uses and
> masquerades actual domain names inside TLDs as .ORG,
> COM, etc...in order to provide domain names inside
> TLDs as .TRAVEL, .GAME, .KIDS, etc... If New.net want
> to call themselves an Alternate Root, then is a bad
> definition because they are functioning under the
> actual Roots, maquerading existent domain names as we
> know them to provide new TLDs, etc...And, such TLDs
> are not resolved by everybody...only those who has the
> software they download or the ISP has upgraded their
> networks by adding some lines to their DNS
> configuration, are the ones that are able to resolve
> such domain names.
> 
> I hope this clarify more to you and everybody, what I
> am talking about.
> 
> And, of course, comments are welcome.

Well, eh, I think new.net thinks it is more sophisticated, to put it
kindly. 

-- 
Marc at Schneiders.ORG

> 
> Best Regards
> Vany
> 
> 
> --- Jonathan Weinberg <weinberg at mail.msen.com> wrote:
> > Vany --
> > 
> >          I'm not sure I understand this.  I gather
> > that you've asked for 
> > ten minutes during the NC teleconference to talk
> > about alternate roots 
> > (specifically, new.net).  What, exactly, is it that
> > you want to say about them?
> > 
> > Jon
> > 
> > 
> > At 06:41 AM 10/4/2001 -0700, Vany Martinez wrote:
> > >Hi William:
> > >The title of the agenda was a misunderstanding of
> > >Philip about the subject I want to talk about.
> > >The changes will be posted soon.
> > >The title of such agenda item will be:
> > >"TLDs not created by ICANN: an attempt to expand
> > the
> > >domain name space or creates confusion."
> > >As you may know, there are some companies that are
> > >marketing TLDs as .TRAVEL, . GAMES, .KIDS, etc, and
> > >what they really do is to masquerade an actual
> > domain
> > >in order to resolve domains under such TLDs.  This
> > >means that only the users that has the proper
> > software
> > >or the users under an ISP that has setted up their
> > >networks to resolve such domain names, will be able
> > to
> > >resolve such names.
> > >This affects all sectors in some way of
> > another...What
> > >the NCDNHC will do if an organization applies to be
> > a
> > >member of the NCDNCH and when we ask them what is
> > your
> > >domain, they answer something like:
> > >myorganization.NGO ?
> > >How can we protect the rights of the non-commercial
> > >sector that is ignorant of what's going on.
> > [snip]
> > 
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> 
> 
> =====
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> Information Technology Specialist
> Sustainable Development Networking Programme/Panama
> http://www.sdnp.org.pa e-mail: vany at sdnp.org.pa
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