[Ncuc-af] Upcoming NCSG elections

Akinremi Peter Taiwo compsoftnet at gmail.com
Fri Jul 13 21:51:44 CEST 2018


Thanks Rafik for your clarification. I'm sure your clarification will be
taken to the heart. While we are calling for a level playing field, there
is still need for us as African to put in place a strategy to make our
participation felt in the ICANN environment.  As echo by Rafik, those who
are serving as appointee should seek an elective position. It troubles when
I listened to the debate that NOMCOM hardly find a suitable
African candidates. It's time for strategy to will make us build necessary
skills and policy experience.

Regards.
Peter

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
wrote:

> Dear Rafik,
>
> As I mentioned at the end of my e-mail, it was not because you of somebody
> acted so that made me write my e-mail, but only to prevent that we fall
> into this kind of mistake as I could notice how easily it is happening at
> the NCSG level those days when somebody asks a question. Thanks for
> clarification again and I believe in your good faith, always.
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
> www.africa2point0.org
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> On 11 Jul 2018, at 03:08, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi Farell,
>
> I made the point for 2 reasons and without making any judgment behind any
> intent:
> - the question was asked before in NCSG list and answered.
> - the question could be directed to me first as it is about me in the
> first place.
> I am not taking offense as I see good faith and took the opportunity to
> clarify. But I also wanted to be clear that can be sensitive as a matter
> and cannot be just dismissed. that is why I am calling for caution.
> I am happy to move on from this matter as I made my point and clarified
> for the inquiry.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le mer. 11 juil. 2018 à 09:56, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a
> écrit :
>
>> Thanks Rafik for the clarification and Remmy for raising his point.
>>
>> I am happy that some people brought again this concern. In any case, it
>> is an open election and democracy will help ensure fair and transparent
>> elections. However, that does not deny us to have a strategy that will
>> empower and serve better the interest of non-commercial users in Africa.
>>
>> In a separate note and before we continue let’s make something very clear
>> : let’s not interpret people questions (to understand something they are
>> confused about) as threats or attacks. It has been happening too much often
>> those days in NCUC and NCSG and to me it is not a very a good attitude to
>> directly interpret a question as if the recipient has something against the
>> person targeted in the question. If somebody simply asks a question, let’s
>> simply reply and noting beyond, unless there is a clear accusation, in this
>> later there is always a way to deal with that respectfully. We are all
>> human.
>> I am not saying that I have noticed something similar yet in this thread
>> but I dare to put this note because I do not wish that this happen to us
>> here in the NCUC-AF list.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>> www.africa2point0.org
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 02:07, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Remmy,
>>
>> Thanks,
>> no worries, I am not angry. I only expressed concerns about this matter.
>> I am happy to clarify anytime and I am open about this.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Le mer. 11 juil. 2018 à 08:48, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Thanks Rafik for the insights and clarification you provided.
>>>
>>> You do not have to be angry over the question, please.I know you have
>>> been very helpful for Africa as far as NCUC and NCSG is concerned, but
>>> then, a lot of people do not know the rationale of Asia-Pacific. So thanks
>>> for the clarification provided. One was trying to situate where Africans
>>> can leverage on this SG election. I am sure you explanation will help make
>>> some inroads in this strategic thinking and planning.
>>>
>>> Presenting more candidates than available positions is well noted.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> RN
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>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:52 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. We can also look around and shop for potentials and encourage them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> encouraging people to be candidates is fine, it is open election and it
>>>> is better to have more candidates than available seats.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. So I encourage us to look inwards, some candidates may be shy to
>>>>> come out or even selfnominate looking first at the criteria for NCSG
>>>>> including your humble self.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> also whoever who wants to run for those position needs to understand
>>>> what that means in term of experience, work and commitment. Having been
>>>> councillor and chair, I can give some insights what is expected there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 3. What does NCSG charter say on criteria for EC Membership.
>>>>>
>>>>> See: Non-‐Commercial Stakeholder Group Charter – v5May 2011 - gNSO -
>>>>> icann
>>>>> PDFhttps://gnso.icann.org › improvements
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> not sure to understand the link to EC membership? you mean the NCSG
>>>> executive committee? they are not elected but appointed members by
>>>> constituencies + the elected chair. however I assume you meant that the
>>>> chair role and tasks are outlined there?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 4. There is also something I noticed from other regions which is worth
>>>>> sharing - informal mentorship via engagement and potential in committees
>>>>> and work groups way ahead of any election.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> proven recordings of participation in working groups, drafting comments
>>>> and so on help for sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 5. Maybe we start with providing information on Africans in NCSG of
>>>>> date. I know of Poncellet from NPOC and Farrell from Ncuc both as
>>>>> appointees not elected. It's unclear which region Rafik is rep. In some
>>>>> instances he represents Africa and at another Asia Pacific where he lives.
>>>>> I stand for more education.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> we need to be clear here, a NCSG GNSO councillor is not a
>>>> representative for a region but the whole membership. The geographical and
>>>> gender requirements in NCSG charter were set to ensure diversity and
>>>> balance (so we don't hae 6 coucnillors from 1 or 2 regions onlu) but are
>>>> not intended to create seat by region. that is a big misudnerstanding and
>>>> being clarified for every election.
>>>>
>>>> I am still African but happens to reside in Asia Pacific like many
>>>> other Africans over the world. the rules in ICANN about vary, some ask for
>>>> country of origin  and other for country of residence (including tax
>>>> residence). That is at the end a personal declaration by the elected
>>>> officer to decide what is the most accurate choice. After several years, I
>>>> chose Asia Pacific as indication when elected as councillor because the
>>>> country of residence is the practice for GNSO. In fact that decision, make
>>>> it possible for other Africans to run, because if I didn't and with Arsene
>>>> as councillor, there is no chance for another African to be elected under
>>>> the geographical requirements.
>>>>
>>>> to be honest, I find this kind of questions concerning as it imply
>>>> challenging someone appaternance or affliation. it is not soemthing healthy
>>>> nor warranted. I am still Tunisian, the only citizenship I have and have
>>>> strong ties my country and region. I advocated for the applicant support
>>>> from developing countries  in new gTLD program taking into consideration
>>>> Africa. In the council I represent the whole NCSG membership and
>>>> constituencies, and advocate NCSG positions.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018 7:54 am, "Arsène Tungali" <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Africa colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> As you know, based on the timeline that i pasted bellow, the
>>>>> nomination period begings on July 18th and we need candidates from Africa
>>>>> to run for these elections.
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember we discussed the need to somehow strategize before
>>>>> nominations to the NCSG list so we can attempt to have agreed-upon
>>>>> candidates from our Africa list before they can go public. This is not an
>>>>> easy task but let’s try it this time.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need a new NCSG Chair and 3 councilors (only one is term ended, two
>>>>> are still eligible for another term). We have good profiles here in Africa
>>>>> and i would encourage you to step forward here in this thread by telling us
>>>>> which position you are interested in.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope we can do this and agree on few names that we will support. And
>>>>> if you have any question, i am happy to help or look for clarification from
>>>>> experienced members.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NCSG elections timeline:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jul 06               check in begins
>>>>> Jul 18               nomination period begins
>>>>> Aug  01            nomination period ends
>>>>> Aug  02            deadline for nomination acceptance and candidate
>>>>> statement
>>>>> Aug  03            voter roll finalized, check-in ends
>>>>> Aug 06             meet the candidates
>>>>> Aug  07            voting begins
>>>>> Aug  20             voting ends
>>>>> Aug  21            results announced
>>>>>
>>>>> *P**ositions: *
>>>>>
>>>>> Chair:
>>>>> Farzaneh Badii - current NCSG Chair (till AGM 2018) -  eligible for
>>>>> another term
>>>>>
>>>>> GNSO COUNCILORS:
>>>>> Rafik Dammak - Asia Pacific (AGM 2018) - eligible for another term
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephanie Perrin – North America (AGM 2018) – term-limited
>>>>> Martin Silva Valent – Latin America and the Caribbean (AGM
>>>>> 2018) - eligible for another term
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------
>>>>> Arsène Tungali,
>>>>> about.me/ArseneTungali
>>>>> +243 993810967
>>>>> GPG: 523644A0
>>>>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
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