[Ncuc-af] Fwd: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Another chat with the CEO/any comments?

Tue Jun 13 17:26:27 CEST 2017

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From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
Date: 2017-06-11 17:00 GMT-04:00
Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Another chat with the CEO/any comments?
To: hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
Cc: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, NCUC-discuss <
ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>

All,

Here is a very brief note of the 30 minute chat I had with Goran, please
note that I made notes of what Goran said in my own language and they are
my interpretations, so he did not necessarily say the exact words of this
note.

1. Some have raised concerns about holding ICANN meetings in countries that
do not respect human rights. Goran explained that at the moment the meeting
criteria does not require ICANN to take into consideration not to hold
ICANN meetings in oppressive countries and maybe it is time for the
community to discuss the issue of whether to consider the human rights
indicator of a country as a criterion for the choice of ICANN host country.

2. As to LAC engagement and why LAC can be a model for the rest of the
world:My take was that the CEO initially means that stakeholder groups
within a region should learn the dynamics of working together.  Regions and
stakeholders in different regions have different working modalities.
Various stakeholder groups in a region should be able to collaborate and
work together and ultimately with the rest of the world's community. LAC's
stakeholder groups have been successful in carrying out this collaboration.

3. As to ICANN becoming a global monitoring content regulator: Nothing has
changed at ICANN with this regard. ICANN will not become a global content
monitoring tool.

4. I also talked about remote participation. He acknowledged the
shortcomings.

5. They are carrying out a visualization of the current ICANN processes (
he mentioned this before at an NCUC meeting) which will be discussed with
the community when it is finalized.

Best

Farzaneh

Farzaneh

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:44 AM, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Great ! thank you Farzaneh, and enjoy your well-deserved break :)
>
> 2017-06-06 5:35 GMT-04:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>
>> All
>>
>> I had the 1:1  conversation with Goran on Friday. I am going away for a
>> couple days. Will report back soon.
>>
>> On 30 May 2017 23:17, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks all,
>>
>> We still have time until Thursday if you want me to relay your
>> messages/comments to the CEO. So far, I have gathered the points below
>> (based on comments that came to my mind and members comments) but I might
>> not get to discuss everything. If you want to add to these comments or want
>> to prioritize one over another, let me know.
>>
>> 1. The CEO said: "The collaboration we have in Latin America & the
>> Caribbean is a model for the rest of the world” @icann_president
>> <https://twitter.com/icann_president> #ICANN
>> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICANN?src=hash> at #LACNIC27
>> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/LACNIC27?src=hash>.
>> What does LAC do that other region don't do? Why is regional
>> collaboration important at ICANN?
>> Do regions need to collaborate better or do stakeholder groups need to
>> collaborate better with those who hold different perspectives from their
>> own sector?
>>
>> 2. Question regarding Compliance. More and more people are coming to
>> ICANN to do more and more. It all sounds good: "anti-abuse," "law
>> enforcement," "protecting copyright and trademark." But a lot of the
>> requests amount to massive limitations on Free Expression and Free Speech
>> -- and procedurally, bringing ICANN into the regulation of content.  The
>> Consumer Trust Review Team recommendations, if adopted, would make ICANN
>> into the greatest global monitor of content ever.
>> Fadi flatly refused this role for ICANN - telling Washington, Wall Street and
>> the world that ICANN manages and oversees the infrastructure of the
>> Internet, but not what it is used for -- the roads, bridges and tunnels,
>> but not what is being carried within a car (his analogy).
>> With Goran, how does he see these enormous and very passionate pressures
>> to bring ICANN into the global content monitoring (and takedown) debate?
>> What will he do to protect the traditional lines and limits of ICANN? How
>> does that "square" with the work of Jaime Hedlund in Compliance and its
>> expanding role?
>>
>> 3. Remote Participation: Face-to-Face meetings challenges
>>
>> 4. CEO report to Board, More emphasis on the different role of Supporting
>> Orgs and Advisory Committees and a bit of background on what each group
>> does
>>
>> 5. A cross community session on General Data Protection Regulation: what
>> NCUC thinks
>>
>> 6. Meeting B: Not only a Policy Forum but a Policy and Outreach Forum
>>
>> 
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent question.
>>>
>>> Stephanie
>>>
>>> On 2017-05-24 08:26, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Farzi,
>>>
>>> Great question from Renata. My question has to do with Compliance. More
>>> and more people are coming to ICANN to do more and more. It all sounds
>>> good: "anti-abuse," "law enforcement," "protecting copyright and
>>> trademark." But a lot of the requests amount to massive limitations on Free
>>> Expression and Free Speech -- and procedurally, bringing ICANN into the
>>> regulation of content.  The Consumer Trust Review Team recommendations, if
>>> adopted, would make ICANN into the greatest global monitor of content ever.
>>>
>>> Fadi flatly refused this role for ICANN - telling Washington, Wall
>>> Street and the world that ICANN manages and oversees the infrastructure of
>>> the Internet, but not what it is used for -- the roads, bridges and
>>> tunnels, but not what is being carried within a car (his analogy).
>>>
>>> With Goran, how does he see these enormous and very passionate pressures
>>> to bring ICANN into the global content monitoring (and takedown) debate?
>>> What will he do to protect the traditional lines and limits of ICANN? How
>>> does that "square" with the work of Jaime Hedlund in Compliance and its
>>> expanding role?
>>>
>>> Best and tx,
>>>
>>> Kathy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/24/2017 1:53 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> So during LACNIC27 the CEO said the following
>>>
>>> "The collaboration we have in Latin America & the Caribbean is a model
>>> for the rest of the world”
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/ICANN/status/867012854846636032
>>>
>>> I'd then suggest the question:
>>>
>>> What is wrong with the world?
>>>
>>> Seriously, how can regions collaborate better and why is this
>>> important in ICANN so how can we accomplish it?
>>>
>>> Thanks
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