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[William Drake]

Hi

Ok, on outsiders sending, ok I see your points, I just wouldn't assume that all current or future team coordinators are going to eager to add moderation to their activities.  So yes splitting duties might be needed.  As with a lot of this boot up stuff we can cross the bridges when we get there rather than planning for each scenario ex ante.

BD

On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I think this is a good default.
> 
> I think the issue of allowing people to comment directly to archived lists is as much a policy as a practical issue. It is the sort of thing that the Ec could make a recommendation on, e.g establishing guidelines that empower the coordinators to only pass on messages that are on topic for the list.
> 
> One other advantage is that so often an issue being discussed on a list includes another person for a short time.  The moderate option allows them to participate as if on the list for that subject (assuming they are CC'ed on messages people send).  Personally, I find it irritating to have people include me on a conversation on a list I am not on and have my responses blocked.  Also this allows people to have a way to bring an issue to the attention of a group for which they are reading the archive.  When I was chairing the NCSG-EC and I was endlessly reporting the NCSG charter slog, it was only one person off the list who sent replies to the charter issues.    I think it is good to have this in the archive.
> 
> I think having the coordinator, and maybe one other,  moderate is good.
> 
> avri
> 
> BTW, can you set me up to send from either acm.org or ella.com, but receive on only acm.org?  thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> On 20 Jan 2013, at 15:45, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:55:57PM -0500, Avri Doria (avri at ella.com) wrote:
>> 
>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 12:29, William Drake wrote:
>> 
>>>> I've never been on a list that receives messages from the great
>>>> beyond. Don't you think it odd for outsiders to be able to post to
>>>> lists they cannot read, and for list members to receive
>>>> interventions from outside the group, which may or may not be
>>>> constructive? Don't know about anyone else but I would much prefer
>>>> the normal configuration.
>> 
>>> I have managed several of these and think it works quite well as
>>> long as someone moderates and only lets on topic through.
>> 
>>> i very much recommend that all leadership teams have this capability
>>> turned on.
>> 
>> All lists are now (by default) so that outsider messages are held for
>> moderation. If the number of such messages grows to non-trivial
>> numbers, there should be a moderator from the groups themselves, like
>> the coordinator.
>> 
>> Perhaps it could be left up to the coordinators to decide if that's
>> what's wanted - the alternatives are discarding such messages or
>> letting them through automatically.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Tapani Tarvainen
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