[Bylaws] Process Re-visioning

Thu Aug 20 17:06:21 CEST 2015

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I’m fine proceeding in any way this team sees fit. I will say though, that
> I liked Arun’s approach and timeline. It would at least create some
> momentum to build upon. My hope was that folks with opinions or input on
> any of the four topics listed by Arun (or even unidentified ones) would
> have been more likely to comment on an actively progressing project, rather
> than an attempt that’s been lying around for a couple of years.
>
> I’ve always thought of the bylaws review as an iterative project anyway.
> Work through one chunk at a time, stop and rework previous sections as
> appropriate/necessary. Kind of comparing it to participatory design of
> information systems, where increasing the number of participants will
> increase the level of complexity, as well as the need for further work.
>
>
> But we need to start somewhere. This small team seemed like the logical
> place to get things going.
>
> Like I said, though…, I’m fine with whatever folks here would like to do.
> As long as the work doesn’t stop…, again.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> > On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > Good day all
> > I think also the way forward is for the bylawyers to agree on a meeting
> day for member concern or highlighted concerns and we address this one
> after another and page by page with Arun leading the pack and direction, so
> that when we finish highlights we can now move on to highlights with
> special effects, that is those who need expansion or extra time for
> tweaking.
> >
> > At Best we can actually handle highlights with special effects except
> where agreement becomes difficult and then move on untill we get to the
> last part/page.
> >
> > It may actually take more than one meeting call at least for the
> bylawyers before we can open up for comments.
> > Just me thing!
> > Remmy Nweke
> > @ITRealms
> >
> > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > From: William Drake
> > Sent: ‎20/‎08/‎2015 09:15
> > To: NCUC Bylaws Revision Committee
> > Subject: Re: [Bylaws] Process Re-visioning
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >> On Aug 20, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Arun Mohan Sukumar <arunmohan.s at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bill, good points - you're right about the need to re-vision this into
> a holistic exercise. What can we do going ahead to ensure that there is
> momentum in completing this exercise, even if it is not bound to a strict
> timeline? As for the text, the letters in black seem identical to the
> actual charter, but I suppose the added text, even if in a different
> colour, may appear confusing to folks.
> >>
> >> One way to go ahead with this is to open the call at the end of this
> month to all willing NCUC members and make it into a brainstorming
> exercise. Before we begin, i can present a list of barebones changes we
> ought to make for NCSG conformity --- and the discussion can go forward on
> larger review questions.
> >
> > Sounds good to me.  I’d think it would make sense before we do a call if
> others could get some of their top-level suggestions on the table as well.
> >
> > As a starting point, what about having team members reply with points
> under the following sorts of headings:
> >
> > 1.  Overarching Issues (holistic view of what’s needed)
> >
> > 2.  NCSG Charter Conformity Issues
> >
> > 3.  Discrepancies with Current Practices to Close
> >
> > 4.  “Would be Nice” Improvements
> >
> > or some similar parsing…let’s agree the categories and then start
> tossing our points in.
> >
> > Re: the meeting, I’m looking at http://doodle.com/ncngb2w5tecmn3as and
> it seems like the two end of the month options are not working so well for
> people, there’s an awful lot of pink boxes. Time zone appears to be a
> challenge for Rafik, who’d I’d think should be on the call(s).  17:30-19:00
> seems a winner for everyone but him because it’s the middle of the night in
> Japan.  Could people maybe take a second look at their schedules and see if
> they could make one of the 15:30-17:00 slots work?
> >
> > We also need replies from more people…I count 27 people in this team and
> just 6 Doodle replies.  We can’t revise they bylaws with that level of
> participation…
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
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