<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Happy to see the conversation lighting up. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Analia I’m not sure what you mean by "what about recovering the last draft related to the agenda” but we can build off the list used before. Adding geographics could be of interest, although bear in mind that NCUC has not really worked on it like the others, and is deeply split on the issue. But maybe highlighting internal differences is ok. Privacy really is a pretty big thing in our world and work stream, I’d be reluctant to get it lost in the broader HR discussion personally. Bear in mind, we are talking about people saying 2-3 minutes per topic just to put them on the table and say we work on them, so adding a couple wouldn’t really make it unbearably long, people just need to be concise and stick to the time limit. Maybe I’ll pass around an iPhone with timer to each person speaking.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So how about</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">• IANA and the transitioning of US control (Matt or James)<br class="">• Accountability mechanisms in the context of globalization (Matt or Arun)<br class="">• Human rights generally (Monika or Niels)<br class="">• Privacy and registry services (Robin or Kathy)<br class="">• Access to knowledge and intellectual property (Kathy Kleiman)<br class="">• Freedom of expression (David Cake)<br class="">• Development (Rafik Dammak)</div><div class="">• Geographic Names (maybe debate…Carlos A. vs. Robin? :-)<br class="">• ICANN in broader Internet governance, e.g. NETmundial Initiative, IGF (Bill Drake)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">that’s 9 x 2/3 minutes, not sooo long before switching the table…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">BD</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 21, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Marília Maciel <<a href="mailto:marilia.maciel@fgv.br" class="">marilia.maciel@fgv.br</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi Bill and all,<br class=""><br class=""></div>Regarding the agenda, I
would like to suggest that we include the discussion on geographic
names, which is a hot issue in the region with amazon and patagonia, for
instance. All the topics you listed seem important, though. Maybe a way
out would be to merge HR and privacy, using the broader perspective as
an introduction to the specifics of privacy?<br class=""><br class=""></div>Also, when
writing to these lists, it would be important to add some brief
background information on ICANN and NCUC and why this is a space of
interest for CS. The value of attending could not be that obvious for
participants in some of these lists. The format of a FAQ could be a good
one for that. And if info could circulate in Spanish and English even
better. <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am also part of most of this lists and I can reinforce the message circulated by Analia, João or others.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just a final note, could the moderator please change my e-mail subscription to this list to <a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" class="">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>? Thanks!<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,<br class=""></div>Marília</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div style="MARGIN:0px" class=""><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt" class=""><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68)" class=""><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt" class=""><b class="">Marília Maciel </b></span></font></span><font color="#365f91" face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt" class=""><br class=""></span></font></span></font></div><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68)" class=""><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt" class=""><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt" class="">Researcher and coordinator <br class=""></span></font></span></font><font size="2" class=""><font face="Arial,sans-serif" class="">Center for Technology and Society</font></font><br class=""></span></div><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68)" class="">FGV Law School - Rio de Janeiro</span><br class=""><div class=""><div style="MARGIN:0px" class=""><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt" class=""><font color="#0066cc" face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt" class=""><a href="mailto:marilia.maciel@fgv.br" target="_blank" class="">marilia.maciel@fgv.br</a></span></font><font color="#595959" face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt" class="">
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<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2015-05-21 16:52 GMT+02:00 Analia Aspis <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:analia.aspis@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">analia.aspis@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Dear Bill and all,<br class=""><br class=""></div>In order to move on, what about recovering the last draft related to the agenda so as to check tha availabity of the speakers and to see if we can make suggest some reginoal ones?<br class=""><br class=""></div>Adela and I can start updating the .doc with all the name that have circulated so far.<br class=""></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:43 AM, João Carlos Rebello Caribé <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:caribe@entropia.blog.br" target="_blank" class="">caribe@entropia.blog.br</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Dear Bill,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I can help on this outreach,I'm a member of this groups, except the <a href="mailto:civilsoc@lacnic.net" target="_blank" class="">civilsoc@lacnic.net</a> also me and or Walid can share with the Fellows, since we are coacher this time.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also there was some names on the list that I can invite right now: Cristiana Gonzales, Javier Pallero, Carolina Botero, Paz Peña, Claudio Ruiz and Renata Avila.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Em 21/05/2015, às 08:43, William Drake escreveu:</div><br class=""></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hello<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So on the 13th I wrote to Rodrigo de la Parra, Cc Analia and Stefi, asking for help with contacts in the LAC region. It seems he doesn’t have a data base of LAC civil society contacts and mostly just defaults to contacting people involved in LACRALO <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2266164" target="_blank" class="">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2266164</a> and Valeria and Carlos. He also suggested that useful mail lists include</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">-RedLatam: <a href="mailto:redlatam@lists.accessnow.org" target="_blank" class="">redlatam@lists.accessnow.org</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Caucus de Gobernanza de Internet de LAC: <a href="mailto:alc-cmsi@gn.apc.org" target="_blank" class="">alc-cmsi@gn.apc.org</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-LACNIC & Sociedad Civil: <a href="mailto:civilsoc@lacnic.net" target="_blank" class="">civilsoc@lacnic.net</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Lista de participantes al LACIGF (están todos los stakeholders, no sólo miembros de la sociedad civil: <a href="mailto:lacigf@lacnic.net" target="_blank" class="">lacigf@lacnic.net</a></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So as far as I know, this is where we stand, and have not moved further forward. The event is just one month away now, so I think we need to get going. ICANN staff presumably will soon post the meeting schedule, and we will need to supply a text describing the session. Which means we should settle on the substantive agenda. And more importantly, we need to start moving on assembling the list of invitees, and to keep track of who’s inviting them and what the status is etc. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">Re: Agenda, </b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 6, 2015, at 9:16 AM, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">for reference, here is what we did in DC, which worked very well, but of course we could spin differently here if we want:</span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">1. Participant Introductions</span><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">2. Brief introduction of NCUC @ ICANN</span><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">3. 2-3 minute introductions of issues NCUC works on in ICANN, e.g.</span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">• IANA and the transitioning of US (Matt Shears)</span><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">• Accountability mechanisms in the context of globalization (Matt Shears)</span><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">• Human rights generally (Bill Drake)</span><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">• Privacy and registry services (Stephanie Perrin)</span><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">• Access to knowledge and intellectual property (Kathy Kleiman)</span><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">• Freedom of expression (David Cake)</span><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">• Development (Rafik Dammak)</span><br class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class="">• ICANN in broader Internet governance, e.g. NETmundial Initiative, IGF (Bill Drake)</span><br class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class=""><span style="float:none;display:inline!important" class=""><br class=""></span></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Comments:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">*I’d suggest the same basic concept, we quickly tee up what we do in ICANN, we ask attendees to highlight their activities and interests, and then we go to open discussion of how to link the two, to the extent this is desired.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">*I’d add a 2 minute ICANN welcome from JJ Sahel before the intro of NCUC. He got us the funding and is a friendly.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">*Are there other more locally relevant topics people think should be added, like geo-names? Also Carlos suggests legal jurisdiction. Are there topics you’d suggest taking off the list? These <i class="">are</i> the things we do though...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">*Re: people to offer boot-up remarks, please note that this session will happen at the same time as the GNSO Council meeting, alas. So Stephanie and David will not be available, we’d need others to cover privacy and FoE. Many choices there…also we’ll have our human rights go-to folks there, Niels and Monika, so they could cover that instead of me.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">Re: Invitees</b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Again the list is at <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gRnbG-zlSzke5D2bQO30yXAu2kXxfuLNXIRL1jwj9v0/edit?pli=1" target="_blank" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gRnbG-zlSzke5D2bQO30yXAu2kXxfuLNXIRL1jwj9v0/edit?pli=1</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It has not been added to in some time. Contacting some of the LACRALO people and others, in Spanish and Portuguese, would seem the logical next steps….</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">Any and all help appreciated in getting this going. </b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bill</div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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