<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Dear Pedro,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the feedback.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Friday 20th works for me. However, as you have mentioned I support to have a larger meeting after the IGF, on July 3rd, 15UTC.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Have a successful IGF meeting.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,<br></div><div>Hakikur<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="zmail_extra_hr" style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-height: 0px;"><br></div><div class="zmail_extra" data-zbluepencil-ignore="true"><div><br></div><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 06:59:39 +0600 <b>Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana@gmail.com></b> wrote ---<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="blockquote_zmail" style="margin: 0px;"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Dear all,<br></div><div><br></div><div>After proposing the postponement to next Thursday, I realized I will be mid-flight, going to the IGF, during the proposed time. <b>Could we change the meeting to Friday, June 20th, 15:00 UTC? If not, either
Namra needs to be available to lead the meeting, or we would have to
have a larger meeting the week following the IGF to finish all the work. <u>I'm
asking you, until midnight of June 16th (UTC/GMT), to answer with your preference
among those two alternatives - which means (a) moving to June 20th, 15 UTC or (b)
maintaining on June 19th, 15 UTC if Namra is available, and, if not, doing a
larger meeting after the IGF, on July 3rd, 15UTC).</u></b><br></div><div><br></div><div>Here is the link so we can start working on the next sections (Sections III to VIII): <a target="_blank" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XfKcFS1meIQczWc_hRKBllEpU7Ty2fHvZhUkQOjfHnw/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XfKcFS1meIQczWc_hRKBllEpU7Ty2fHvZhUkQOjfHnw/edit?usp=sharing</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="highlight" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 0)">Commenting on a few points, especially about the final decision on Sections I to II </span><b><u><span class="highlight" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 0)"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(255, 0, 0)">(PLEASE READ):</span></span></u></b><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your patience in waiting for the next steps after I was able to check in with Namra - the numerous Internet Governance processes that are culminating this
month are consuming a lot of time, and the way things happened made it hard to think about how to proceed here. <b>I once again ask this Task Force not to</b> <b>leave new suggestions to the last minute or during the call, since this makes our work deeply inefficient.</b> We can't leave the meetings with more questions than we started, or noticing things that we'd like to change when we should already be building a first level of consensus. At each controversial point, we need to get to two or more proposals, so we can vote on them afterwards.<b> </b><br></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>As mentioned before, suggestions that were brought up only during the call were not accounted for and will not be inserted in the proposal of the review. </b><br></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>As far as I understood, besides smaller suggestions already listed on the doc (and I have presumed consensus for those that were apparently not part of the call and had no comment on them on the doc), these here are decisions on controversial issues:<br></div><div><br></div><div><ul><li>NCUC PC<br></li><ul><li>Consensus: Reevaluate forming NCUC PC; no editing until conceptual agreement. <b>I understand, then, that there was consensus for not changing any of the text there.</b><br></li><li>Decision: Remove all Trello references—Confluence is now standard.<br></li></ul><li>Appointments and positions<br></li><ul><li>Avoid overlapping roles when travel is involved. <b>I understand that there was consensus here.</b><br></li><li>In the notes, there is an objection to mandatory criteria, but no consensus seems to have emerged. I maintain my personal position, as this is the only way to block people who do not actually do work within the NCSG. <b>I<u> would like to ask for a vote on the list between those two options: (i) we should have mandatory engagement criteria, allowing for explicit justification and some flexibility [I'd go with Karzan's wording]; (ii) no mandatory engagement criteria.</u></b><br></li><li>Two similar discussions about the relevance of the appointments were raised:<br></li><ul><li>EC meetings should always be held for at least for more important roles, such as NomCom. No indication of a consensus or concrete suggestion in the notes. <br></li><li>Interviews should happen to fill critical roles. No indication of a consensus here.<br></li><li><b><u>Would like, then, to ask for a vote on what are those critical roles (a) NomCom and PIR; (b) NomCom, PIR and NCSG EC </u></b><br></li></ul><li>Emergency roles should be temporary; full process must follow. Shortened timelines allowed—but must be transparent and justified. <b>I understand that there is consensus here, but no text was suggested.</b><br></li></ul></ul></div><div>Please check if I missed something.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cordially,<div><br></div><div><div class="x_1784200243gmail_signature" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><b>Pedro de Perdigão Lana</b><br></span></span></span><div><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.nic.br/">Lawyer</a>, </span></span></span><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.gedai.com.br/">GEDAI/UFPR</a> Researcher</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px">PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)</span></span></span><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px">Coordination/Board/EC @</span></span></span><span class="font" style="font-family:"times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"> </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.isoc.org.br/">ISOC Brazil</a>,</span></span><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"> </span></span><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.ncuc.org/">NCUC</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home">NCSG </a>(ICANN) and </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><a target="_blank" href="https://br.creativecommons.net/">CC Brazil</a></span></span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif">.</span></span><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"></span><br></div><div><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif">This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it.</span></span><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="x_1784200243gmail_quote"><div class="x_1784200243gmail_attr" dir="ltr">Em ter., 10 de jun. de 2025 às 13:18, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:pedrodeperdigaolana@gmail.com">pedrodeperdigaolana@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex" class="x_1784200243gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div>Hi everyone,<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sorry for not following up on this yet, I still need to catch up with Namra to decide on next steps.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But I'm sending this message to let everyone know that the meeting that would potentially happen this week is moved to next week, due to ICANN83. I'll send the next working doc later today.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cordially,<br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><span><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><b>Pedro de Perdigão Lana</b><br></span></span></span><div><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.nic.br/">Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600</a>, </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px">Pesquisador (<a target="_blank" href="https://www.gedai.com.br/">GEDAI/UFPR</a>)</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px">Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra),</span></span></span><br></div><div><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px">Coordenação/Diretoria/EC @ <a target="_blank" href="https://www.isoc.org.br/">ISOC Brasil</a>,</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"> </span></span><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.ncuc.org">NCUC</a> & <a target="_blank" href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home">NCSG </a>(ICANN), </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><a target="_blank" href="https://br.creativecommons.net/">CC Brasil</a></span></span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px">.</span></span></span><br></div><div><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"></span><br></div><span class="font" style="font-family:garamond, "times new roman", serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10px">Essa mensagem é restrita ao remetente e destinatário(s). Se recebida por engano, favor responder informando o erro.</span></span></span></div></div></div><br><div class="x_1784200243gmail_quote"><div class="x_1784200243gmail_attr" dir="ltr">Em qui., 29 de mai. de 2025, 18:55, Andrea Glandon <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org">andrea.glandon@icann.org</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex" class="x_1784200243gmail_quote"><div><div><p class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Hello all,</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"> </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Please find below the attendance and recordings from the Operating Procedures Review Task Force meeting held on Thursday, 29 May 2025 at 15:00 UTC.</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"> </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">This information is also available on the wiki<span> </span><a target="_blank" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AQDqE__;!!PtGJab4!_BNFy05-elTUc5Q2yZiITU7ZJTrsf2ATyR5jZuDYYOLs5fQRt_ZLSpUijJPQuhvyUO8iFqtvxExp1tNxT_ch8JSXINxS3hY3OQo$"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(70, 120, 134)">here.
[icann-community.atlassian.net]</span></a></span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"> </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><b><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Attendees:<span> </span></span></span></span></b><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Ken Herman, Mohammad Atif Aleem, Raymond
Mamattah, Hakikur Rahman, Lily Edinam Botsyoe, Namra Naseer, Oksana Prykhodko, Pascal BEK. |<b> Apologies: </b>Pedro de Perdigão Lana, Gabriel Karsan, Houda Chihi |<b> ICANN org:</b> Andrea Glandon</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"> </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><a target="_blank" href="https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/fWyaeGwT9UZQkQl0pe4uFnHpeB2lB2aDFWKk14QEjZ8nI_azMI3_MfhbKa86tOXSbYrOmdTpkNmb7Pbw.GAoBENDTApiIahoD">Zoom Replay</a> </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><a target="_blank" href="https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/b9_zkqr4sqIHtxZAxCfqBDt0GJ4e7qTMpvqyb4JoAk79QoaFbC3xz-BptYxGJXNT1OlmvTBI1uYSN_kx.il_Yirmz8Y9pt91x">Audio Replay</a> </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"> </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Thanks!</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="line-height: 13.5pt; word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><b><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(17, 17, 17)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Andrea Glandon</span></span></span></b><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="line-height: 13.5pt; word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p style="line-height: 13.5pt; word-spacing: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(17, 17, 17)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:13.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span><br></p><p class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"> <u></u><u></u></span></span></span><br></p><p class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u><br></p></div></div>--<br> Oprtf mailing list<br> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Oprtf@lists.ncuc.org">Oprtf@lists.ncuc.org</a><br> <a target="_blank" href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/oprtf">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/oprtf</a><br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>--<br>Oprtf mailing list <br><a target="_blank" href="mailto:Oprtf@lists.ncuc.org">Oprtf@lists.ncuc.org</a> <br><a target="_blank" href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/oprtf">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/oprtf</a> <br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><br></body></html>