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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks, Ines, for following up on potential topics. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Regarding Afrinic, no doubt there are legal and technical issues at stake, but I was thinking more of the impact the afrinic issues were having on the African internet community, and if there are any lessons that other regions can learn from a disruption of this type. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Ken<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hfaiedh Ines<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 29, 2024 1:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] Kigali Issue Forum Topic ideas<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear colleagues<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So the majority of the Af community suggested the topic related to Afrinic.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A member also noted ( and was seconded by another) : '<span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Currently, this issue is under legal examination, and it raises the question of what aspects can be discussed that have not already been addressed in the courtroom. Are there specific elements you believe need discussion? At this time, it may not be appropriate for any <span style='color:#3C4043;background:#FDE293'>AFRINIC</span> leadership staff to comment.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Apr 8, 2024, 16:35 Hfaiedh Ines <<a href="mailto:hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com">hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you colleagues. This was actionned.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Apr 8, 2024, 14:05 Benjamin Akinmoyeje <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com" target="_blank">benakin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Ines,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Please feel free to share your thoughts with the list, and we are open to suggestions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Benjamin <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 1:45<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM Mili Semlani <<a href="mailto:milisemlani@gmail.com" target="_blank">milisemlani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>It will be a good idea to ask the AF community... this will also help garner interest and maybe potential speakers.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#666666'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#666666'>With gratitude</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mili Semlani</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Community specialist<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#888888'><a href="https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#888888'> | </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>LinkedIn</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 at 17:02, Hfaiedh Ines <<a href="mailto:hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com" target="_blank">hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you Ken and Ben, I agree with these topics, also if you would like me to ask the African membership on the AF list about other topics, I can do that as well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_-5571780538803917215m_-7380122343591649386m_-4430438041457277132m_1353448214055609051DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0 style='border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE 1.0pt'><tr><td width=55 style='width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=46 height=29 style='width:.4791in;height:.3055in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://s-install.avcdn.net/ipm/preview/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=470 style='width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#41424E'>Sans virus.<a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" target="_blank"><span style='color:#4453EA'>www.avg.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Le dim. 7 avr. 2024 à 18:26, Ken Herman <<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com" target="_blank">ken@kherman.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks Benjamin These are great ideas. I think the Afrinic issue is worth following up on, and perhaps applicant support as it pertains to the region. Perhaps we can find some people associated with Afrinic as well as NCSG members who are affected by it. Same for Applicant Support. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Ken</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Benjamin Akinmoyeje <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com" target="_blank">benakin@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 7, 2024 12:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ken Herman <<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com" target="_blank">ken@kherman.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Exec. Comm <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] Kigali Issue Forum Topic ideas</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear Ken,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you for kickstarting this conversation; some of the topics of interest that I can think of are as follows.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Applicant support program <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>ICANN Grant Program<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Afrinic legal issues and consequences for the non-profits, activists, researchers, etc<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Internet shutdown and Human rights (Digital rights) implications<o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>These are thoughts that I have now.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Benjamin <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 8:15<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM Ken Herman <<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com" target="_blank">ken@kherman.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello Benjamin and Ines. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Since ICANN80 will be in the Africa region, which doesn’t happen very often, we may want to think about topics that have are particular relevance to the refion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>As the current and former EC members from the AF region, I wonder if either of you have some insight into what those topics may be, especially as they pertain to the non-commercial community. For example, do non-commercial institutions in the region have any specific difficulty when it comes to registering and maintaining domain names, or interacting with registrars? Are there regulatory issues that inhibit domain name registration for these groups?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Perhaps we can plan to brainstorm some topics at our meeting on Monday.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ken<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>_______________________________________________<br>NCUC-EC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NCUC-EC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NCUC-EC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NCUC-EC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>