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    <p>OK, back to Benjamin and Milton: Could you share the source of
      the funds (was this PIR money?) and how much was/will be paid?</p>
    <p>Tx for the assurance, Mili, that we own all rights to this report
      when it is finished.  That's very important. <br>
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    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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    <p>On 11/2/2023 10:30 PM, Mili wrote:</p>
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      <div>  Thanks for your questions. </div>
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      <div>I would direct these questions to @benjamin and @ Milton who
        will be better suited to answer anything related to the
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      <div>As of now the payment has not been made. Once the final draft
        is shared, we will receive the invoice. </div>
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      <div>Once the invoice is honored, NCUC/SG will own all rights to
        the report. As a standard in the publishing world. We (by we I
        mean NCUC/SG here) are free to share, publish and circulate it
        as we please. </div>
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      <div>I am merely carrying this facilitation as an NCUC volunteer
        in my capacity as the EC member. <br>
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            <div><font style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mili
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          On Nov 3, 2023, at 01:49, Kathy Kleiman
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          <p>Tx Mili, thanks for your response and agreed that it takes
            a lot of work to make a forum happen.</p>
          <p>Let me follow-up with two quick questions. Could you share
            the source of the funds (was this PIR money?) and how much
            you paid?  Also who owns the report this group produced? 
            These seem like fair questions, but if there is a concern
            about transparency, please let me know.</p>
          <p>Best regards, Kathy<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/2/2023 10:40 AM, Mili
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            Hi Kathy
            <div>  As mentioned in my earlier emails too, we hired a
              rapporteur (a writing agency that has writers) to prepare
              this report for us. </div>
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            <div>For everyone’s clarity, I did not write the report. I
              am merely facilitating it as we divided the various tasks
              for the issue forum and I took over the task of looking
              for a rapporteur and co ordinating this. </div>
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            <div>And yes everyone put in a lot of work to make the issue
              forum happen and it’s great to see the collective result
              of all our efforts. </div>
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                On Nov 2, 2023, at 19:56, Kathy Kleiman <a
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                <p>Hi Mili,</p>
                <p>A lot of people spent a lot of time preparing for
                  this issues forum (as well as the first).  Can I ask
                  how much you got paid to write this report (and how 
                  long it took)? <br>
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                <p>Best and thanks,</p>
                <p>Kathy</p>
                <p>On 11/2/2023 2:13 AM, Mili Semlani wrote:</p>
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style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">  As a part of the
                      20th anniversary celebration, we organised an
                      issue forum at ICANN78. It was decided that we
                      hire a rapporteur to prepare a brief report of the
                      discussion. </div>
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style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I have attached
                      the first draft of the report they have sent me.
                      Kindly take a look and let me know if it's okay
                      (check for factual errors, if its readable well
                      and detailed enough for us). <br>
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style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Can we add a link
                      to the <span
                        style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">comparison
                        between At large and NCSG applicant support
                        proposals (the printed version that you prepared
                        and circulated at the session) to this report?
                        If yes, please share the link or send the
                        document as an attachment. </span></div>
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style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Also let me know
                      if there is any other feedback on the attached
                      report, changes, amendments etc. We ideally should
                      share and publish it for our members before the
                      readout scheduled for Nov 6.</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 2 Nov 2023
                      at 01:59, Kathy Kleiman <a
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                        <p>Hi Mili,</p>
                        <p>Good to see you and Hamburg, and nice to have
                          a chance to talk. Still in catch-up mode here;
                          I'll have things over to you  tomorrow (11/2).</p>
                        <p>Also, what is a soft copy for and who is the
                          writer?  Not sure I understand the request...
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                        <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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                        <div>On 11/1/2023 11:14 AM, Mili wrote:<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite"> Noted. @milton do you
                          have any additional resources, links that
                          point to this?
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                          <div>@kathy maybe we can also attach the
                            comparison between At large and NCSG
                            applicant support proposals (the printed
                            version that you prepared and circulated at
                            the session). Can you also send me a soft
                            copy for the same so I can share it with the
                            writer to incorporate. </div>
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                          <div>@all of no further comments, I will send
                            this with the below feedback for final
                            drafting. Kindly let me know by EOD (Nov 1).<br>
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                                On Nov 1, 2023, at 00:37, Mueller,
                                Milton L <a
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hello,
                                      Mili</span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
                                      think the report on RVCs would be
                                      improved if we could attach the
                                      framework Kathy and I developed
                                      for allowable RVCs. It could also
                                      discuss some of the “stress test”
                                      studies we discussed. </span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> NCUC-EC <a
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                                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mili Semlani<br>
                                      <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 31,
                                      2023 6:31 AM<br>
                                      <b>To:</b> Exec. Comm <a
href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"><ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org></a><br>
                                      <b>Subject:</b> [NCUC-EC] Report
                                      from NCUC issue forum</span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">  As a part of the 20th
                                          anniversary celebration, we
                                          organised an issue forum at
                                          ICANN78. It was decided that
                                          we hire a rapporteur to
                                          prepare a brief report of the
                                          discussion. </span></p>
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style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">I have attached the first draft of
                                          the report they have sent me.
                                          Kindly take a look and let me
                                          know if it's okay (check for
                                          factual errors, if its
                                          readable well and detailed
                                          enough for us). If it's good
                                          to go and doesn't require any
                                          changes, we can furnish their
                                          invoice and they will pass the
                                          rights for us to publish this
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href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/" target="_blank"
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