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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please find below the Zoom recordings from the meeting today.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Zoom recording: <a href="https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/esM72f-JvwGGcsGzBAeaG2H-3jrWVRZMJLfTH1JlKjOiD3qLYi5hIV6e34ieGoKb8Bzn8TSqrRduHbs8.m45s5NQmXeDnBVrM">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Audio only: <a href="https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/vKFdpySvMnySoN2CDvcwzPbeOxHPARgMJ-NU2O0USo_eQvX7GU2ghZ7kABx5LqWq1LPrYhNos_8Z0kQ6.XwSfAiLSDFeS8IdZ">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Andrea<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Ken Herman <ken@kherman.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:19<br>
<b>To: </b>'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <benakin@gmail.com>, 'Tapani Tarvainen' <ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info>, 'Amin Hacha' <aminhacha@gmail.com>, Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon@icann.org>, 'David Morar' <davidcristianmorar@gmail.com>, 'Olga Kyryliuk' <olga_kyryliuk@ukr.net>,
"'Exec. Comm'" <ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] RE: [NCUC-EC] E-Team Engagement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello all.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for everyone’s contribution.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The link below is my brief summary of today’s discussion. Please edit in places where I might have missed key points.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1aeBwOPClnTiNzr6LLcY0K9Ha_JrRmWTXLqa585_fOYw/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!5XlBQRQguguQYeBQcmT8l6FhG9BfNz2p-l5XHkab6mG05j3jeF8XskUfdhBTzcGuOiLjr9Nd31ueaHiyVMKdZg$">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aeBwOPClnTiNzr6LLcY0K9Ha_JrRmWTXLqa585_fOYw/edit?usp=sharing
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ken</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Benjamin Akinmoyeje<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 29, 2023 3:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info>; Amin Hacha <aminhacha@gmail.com>; Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon@icann.org>; David Morar <davidcristianmorar@gmail.com>; Olga Kyryliuk <olga_kyryliuk@ukr.net>; Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] E-Team Engagement</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Andrea,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good day to you and I hope you are doing well.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please can you help create a Zoom meeting for us the eTeam and Olga to meet.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please it would be great if you can invite everyone on this mail trail.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The date and time of the meeting is July 31, 2023, and by 6 pm Kyiv time.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 4:07 PM Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I can do July 31 at that time. Probably could arrange the latter<br>
options as well but would have to look at specific times.<br>
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Tapani<br>
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On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 08:44:21AM +0000, Benjamin Akinmoyeje (<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com" target="_blank">benakin@gmail.com</a>) wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Dear eTeam,<br>
> Good day to you.<br>
> <br>
> Please here is the time availability I got from Olga<br>
> <br>
> “So if you want a call, let’s make smth quick for 30 minutes max with EC<br>
> inviting Tapani who can explain what is the challenge on his side. I can<br>
> make it for a call on 31 July after 6 pm (Kyiv time, UTC+3), 3 August after<br>
> 4 pm and 5 August any time at the moment.”<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I will recommend July 31st please<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Looking forward to hear from you.<br>
> <br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Benjamin<br>
> <br>
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 2:16 PM, Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info" target="_blank">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > So, a brief summary of the situation as I see it:<br>
> ><br>
> > Olga and her friend Dusan have designed a new website, which you can<br>
> > see at <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www2.ncuc.org__;!!PtGJab4!5XlBQRQguguQYeBQcmT8l6FhG9BfNz2p-l5XHkab6mG05j3jeF8XskUfdhBTzcGuOiLjr9Nd31ueaHjJmaiHTw$" target="_blank">
www2.ncuc.org [ncuc.org]</a>. Contentwise it's no more up-to-date than the<br>
> > old one, but it should be easy to update (the old one isn't as you<br>
> > presumably know, I won't go into the reasons for that now).<br>
> ><br>
> > The first decision would be if the new design is good enough<br>
> > to move forward with. (I think it is.)<br>
> ><br>
> > There are some compatibility issues with the current VPN where<br>
> > it now is. They are not trivial to solve because the old mailing<br>
> > list software (<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.ncuc.org__;!!PtGJab4!5XlBQRQguguQYeBQcmT8l6FhG9BfNz2p-l5XHkab6mG05j3jeF8XskUfdhBTzcGuOiLjr9Nd31ueaHgMnn-00g$" target="_blank">lists.ncuc.org [lists.ncuc.org]</a>) needs different (older) versions<br>
> > of some stuff, and we don't want to break the mailing lists.<br>
> ><br>
> > Easiest solution from my perspective here is getting another VPN and<br>
> > separate the mailing list and website to their own VPNs. This will<br>
> > cost something to the order of $10/month.<br>
> ><br>
> > So that's the second decision. I can set up a new VPN in<br>
> > a few minuts once you confirm someone will pay for it.<br>
> ><br>
> > Once that's up and the new wordpress setup is there, it's contents<br>
> > would need to be updated. Not all that much new content is needed,<br>
> > most important is to make sure that whatever is there is current,<br>
> > notably EC and other committee memberships. Some subsections are also<br>
> > completely empty now, but could be populated simply by copying content<br>
> > from the old site.<br>
> ><br>
> > Publication of the new site could be done in two ways:<br>
> ><br>
> > (1) keep it in a temporary location (www2 or whatever) until the<br>
> > contents are more or less up to date and then change the URL to<br>
> > <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ncuc.org__;!!PtGJab4!5XlBQRQguguQYeBQcmT8l6FhG9BfNz2p-l5XHkab6mG05j3jeF8XskUfdhBTzcGuOiLjr9Nd31ueaHjvrsdizA$" target="_blank">
www.ncuc.org [ncuc.org]</a> and announce it to the world.<br>
> ><br>
> > (2) switch URL immediately, that is make <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ncuc.org__;!!PtGJab4!5XlBQRQguguQYeBQcmT8l6FhG9BfNz2p-l5XHkab6mG05j3jeF8XskUfdhBTzcGuOiLjr9Nd31ueaHjvrsdizA$" target="_blank">
www.ncuc.org [ncuc.org]</a> point to<br>
> > the new design even while incomplete and update it there.<br>
> ><br>
> > Difference between those is mainly in the optics as it were, how<br>
> > things look like while it's being worked on. The first would be<br>
> > prettier, more glamorous so to speak, but if nobody then takes up the<br>
> > content work it could hang in a limbo for a long time.<br>
> ><br>
> > That's the third decision.<br>
> ><br>
> > But what that leads to is continued maintenance of the site,<br>
> > both content (Wordpress) and back end.<br>
> ><br>
> > Pretty much everybody should be able to learn what it takes to to edit<br>
> > WP content in a matter of minutes, although some care (and<br>
> > documentation!) would be needed to keep the site consistent in what's<br>
> > where. But you'd need several people doing that enough that they don't<br>
> > forget how it works.<br>
> ><br>
> > So the fourth decision is, who'd be doing that.<br>
> ><br>
> > The back end I can manage for now, but at least in the long run it<br>
> > would be necessary to have a backup sysadmin in case I'm run over<br>
> > by a bus or die of old age or something, and for that you'd need<br>
> > someone with Linux sysadmin skills. There are also options for<br>
> > managed hosting where that'd be somewhat easier, at extra cost<br>
> > (of course), which might make sense at some point.<br>
> ><br>
> > Deciding on that isn't as urgent, but for the record it's one<br>
> > more question to decide on at some point.<br>
> ><br>
> > OK, it wasn't all that brief... but I think I got most of<br>
> > the issues covered.<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Tapani Tarvainen<br>
> ><br>
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-- <br>
Tapani Tarvainen</p>
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