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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks again, Olga. It could be that the NCUC has some requirements for what an invoice should contain, but an internet search for “business invoice” should reveal a kind of format that your provider can use. Here are some options:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://create.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/invoices">https://create.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/invoices</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.zoho.com/uk/invoice/templates/service-invoice-template/">https://www.zoho.com/uk/invoice/templates/service-invoice-template/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It’s very US centric, but you can get the idea. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Basically, I would convey that if this person wants to get paid, they need to provide an invoice that documents the work completed and the amount.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Olga Kyryliuk <olga_kyryliuk@ukr.net> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 28, 2023 8:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ken Herman <ken@kherman.com><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Hfaiedh Ines' <hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com>; 'Exec. Comm' <ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: RE: [NCUC-EC] New NCUC Website Launch<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=xfm16964902>I’ve asked multiple times and never got a reply - do we have a template for invoice or any other instructions? Or can invoice be submitted in any form? I’ve never dealt with payments in NCUC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>28 липня 2023 р. о 14:57:40, від "Ken Herman" <ken@kherman.com>: </span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xfmc2>Olga, I am ok with the expense, but Ines is correct that we will need an official statement/invoice from the provider before we can approve anything for actual payment. Presumably this document would include payment instructions.<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xfmc2>Ken<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xfmc2><b>From:</b> NCUC-EC <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" target="_self">ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Olga Kyryliuk<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 28, 2023 7:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> Hfaiedh Ines <<a href="mailto:hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com" target="_self">hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Exec. Comm <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_self">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] New NCUC Website Launch<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xfmc2><span class=xfmc3>Hi Ines!</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2>Services provided is website redesign, upgrade of plugins and fixing technical errors. Cost - 1500 USD. New website is temporarily available at <span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'><a href="http://test.dukes.in.rs/" target="_blank">test.dukes.in.rs</a> until hosting issue is solved.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2 style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>Olga </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>28 липня 2023 р. о 14:47:25, від "Hfaiedh Ines" <<a href="mailto:hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com">hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com</a>>: </span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=xfmc2>> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xfmc2>Hello Benjamin and colleagues<o:p></o:p></p><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2>Can we have the invoice to get a better idea about the cost and services provided.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2>I can t find it on my old emails.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2>I hope we can get the website isdue fixed soon.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=xfmc2>On Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 10:51 Benjamin Akinmoyeje <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com">benakin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=xfmc2>Dear Ken, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2>Thank you for your response, well appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2>I have cc’d the ETeam members in this response.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2>I will request a zoom meeting with help from Andrea for July 31st, 6pm UTC+3 as suggested by Olga. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2>Also invite all parties which include the ECs, Tapani, David Morar and Amin.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc2>Benjamin <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=xfmc2>On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 9:31 AM, Ken Herman <<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com" target="_blank">ken@kherman.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=xfmc4>Olga and Benjamin.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xfmc4>First, thank you, Olga, for overseeing the redevelopment of the NCUC web site. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xfmc4>Regarding the issue of the hosting, my opinion is to separate the web site from the mailman application and place the web site at a new, well-functioning server as proposed. The issue, then, is whether to use the development hosting provider or someplace else. The alternative that comes to mind is to align the NCUC technology with the other non-commercial entities (NCSG and NPOC) would make sense, but I am not familiar with what other technical activities are ongoing in those entities. Given that NCSG has reactivated the e-team, that is a good place to start. Olga, if you can interact with the e-team directly, that would be helpful. Depending on the time of the meeting I could be available to join the discussion. The sooner we do that the better, so perhaps you or Benjamin can initiate a call for a meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xfmc4>Regarding the development invoice, I support effecting payment as soon as possible. Once we get consent from the EC (which I do not see as a problem), then Benjamin can initiate that process.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xfmc4>Ken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xfmc4><b>From:</b> NCUC-EC <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Benjamin Akinmoyeje<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 28, 2023 4:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> Olga Kyryliuk <<a href="mailto:olga_kyryliuk@ukr.net" target="_blank">olga_kyryliuk@ukr.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Exec. Comm <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] New NCUC Website Launch<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=xfmc4>Dear Olga,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Thank you for your response.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>I have been traveling and it’s a challenge keeping up with engagements and emails.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>The eTeam consists of Tapani, David Morar, and Amin.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Once the EC approves the payment of the funds. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>I will communicate the meeting times to the eTeam so you can discuss with them directly.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Benjamin <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=xfmc4>On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 at 7:24 PM, Olga Kyryliuk <<a href="mailto:olga_kyryliuk@ukr.net" target="_blank">olga_kyryliuk@ukr.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=xfmc4>Hi Ben!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Essentially it is a simple decision on which hosting to operationalize a website. Ideally, it was supposed to be a quick upload of new website on current hosting but when I sent new website copy to Tapani it appeared that our current hosting systems need to be upgraded to be compatible with latest version of Wordpress used for website. And that’s where the process got stuck.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>The only difference is that one option with new hosting provider can make website up instantly and the other option with keeping on current hosting will require additional efforts and time for Tapani to make necessary upgrades in the system to ensure compatibility with the latest WP and plugins, cos otherwise the moment when website crashes again is very close. This is an EC decision, I don’t see much value in extending this conversation to anyone else. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>So if you want a call, let’s make smth quick for 30 minutes max with EC inviting Tapani who can explain what is the challenge on his side. I can make it for a call on 31 July after 6 pm (Kyiv time, UTC+3), 3 August after 4 pm and 5 August any time at the moment. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Btw who is part of NCUC eTeam? It would be more practical to talk to those people once decision on hosting is made and website is up and running to handover to them all admin details needed to maintain the website. And it would be very valuable to have someone in charge.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Another issue that I would like us to finalize asap is payment for website redesign in the amount of 1500$. Irrespective of how long this conversation on hosting will last (even we could make this decision in few minutes), the redesign was completed. You can see the result at <a href="http://test.dukes.in.rs/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;background:white'>test.dukes.in.rs</span></a>. The task I had was redesign and we used the latest templates and plugins fixing a lot of mess and errors in old design. Hosting incompatibility/upgrade is separate issue. Prolonging with payment makes me feel very uncomfortable in front of the person who invested best efforts and time in our website, which was ready two months ago. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>So, let’s start from approving the payment for redesign and speed up hosting decision. For that can I kindly ask all EC members to respond to this email at your earliest convenience to give your green light for processing payment?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>On that, Ben, do you need invoice for making payment? Do we have any template? How payments are processed?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Olga<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>26 липня 2023 р. о 14:19:13, від "Benjamin Akinmoyeje" <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com" target="_blank">benakin@gmail.com</a>>: </span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=xfmc4>> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xfmc4>Dear Olga,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Good day to you and I hope you are doing well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Please do you have an opening in your appointment schedule to meet with ECs and the NCUC eTeam to close this issue.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Benjamin <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=xfmc4>On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 10:27 PM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com" target="_blank">benakin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=xfmc4>Dear Olga,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=xfmc4>Thank you for this update. I must apologize that I was caught up with things and I just read the mail now.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Suddenly it makes sense what you were saying during the meeting, in respect of making a decision.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>I will have to consult with Tapani and read up on the best approach to take. My question to you is what option would you recommend for NCUC?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>I also would like other ECs to contribute to this conversation and we can also try and get feedback from the community members or selected community members to get some buy-in.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Finally, it is in the purview of the ECs to approve the payment.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Thank you for the enormous work you have put into this.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4>Benjamin<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=xfmc4>On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 4:33 PM Olga Kyryliuk <<a href="mailto:olga_kyryliuk@ukr.net" target="_blank">olga_kyryliuk@ukr.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Dear All!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>In anticipation of our today's meeting I want to share an update on website redesign. The website itself has been ready a month ago but there have been some questions around how to operationalize it that we've discussed with Ben and Tapani. As time is passing, I would like us jointly to take a final decision how to move forward and to finalize this task.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white'>The newly designed website is available at </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href="http://test.dukes.in.rs/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;background:white'>test.dukes.in.rs</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white'>All content was transferred to the new website. I fixed some very obvious outdated places. However, the website was not updated with new content for the last few years. Therefore, I would suggest releasing the new website as soon as possible and simultaneously start a call for volunteers (or as I recall we already got some interest during the last two ICANN meetings) to work on content. Another crucial point is</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> to assign a dedicated person as web admin to be in charge of website updates and upgrades, otherwise this whole exercise with redesigning website will be pointless. Someone needs to preserve a memory of what changes have been made and keep an eye to timely upgrade plugins. This can be someone from EC or any community member who is ready to dedicate at least few years to supporting NCUC with this. It shouldn't be very time consuming but it is important that someone takes care of this.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Recently at EuroDIG, I had a chance to meet in person with Tapani and Dusan Stojicevic, who helped us with website upgrade, and we came to a conclusion that we have two options to move forward with operationalizing newly designed website:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>1. Buy new Virtual Private Server to locate new website</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>NCUC's VPS is presently running Ubuntu 20.04, which only has php 7.4. The new website was created to run with latest PHP 8.1 or 8.2. If we do not upgrade it’s just a matter of very short time until the website cracks down again. So, consider efforts wasted. Upgrading current VPS is a bit complicated as it also hosts NCUC mailing list that is using mailman. Tapani said that mailman is using PHP 7.4, so it would be costly (or even impossible) to upgrade mailman and website to new PHP versions. That is the reason behind new VPS. And he said the price is 5 USD per month for another VPS. It will also take some time to set up.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>2. Divide hosting, keeping mailing list with Tapani and leaving website with another hosting provider that currently has the test version. We can make website live instantly. In this way we will also <span style='color:black;background:white'>secure proper compatibility with plugins. The price is </span>4320 RSD (Serbian dinar) with VAT, without VAT 3600 RSD - around 36 USD per year.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I leave it open for discussion but time- and technically-wise second option is more preferable.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>On a different note, it would be good to proceed with the payment for website redesign in the amount of 1,500 USD. Do we have any specific invoice template or Dusan can submit it in any form? Do we need anything else apart from invoice to process the payment? </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>That has been indeed a lot of work as all content had to be transferred manually, there have been a lot of errors, absolute links, and incompatible plugins, which significantly complicated the process. This is why now when technically things are fixed, I want us to take website support with proper seriousness and dedicate efforts to its tech upgrade and contents update.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Looking forward to hearing your opinions during our call!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Olga</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=xfmc4><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=xfmc4>_______________________________________________<br>NCUC-EC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=xfmc2>_______________________________________________<br>NCUC-EC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NCUC-EC mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_self">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>