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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Here is the last message I received from Ken and Ben. Note that it says “</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Indeed, we should
know the venue, if not the actual room number. But we won’t know the date.” <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I told you I would wait. Until I threw a temper tantrum on the EC list, I got no instructions for a week.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We are DANGEROUSLY late.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 6:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ken Herman <ken@kherman.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <benakin@gmail.com>; 'Johan Helsingius' <julf@julf.com>; Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="smartreply"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Ok, thanks for letting me know. I will wait
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Ken Herman <<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com">ken@kherman.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 5:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com">benakin@gmail.com</a>>; 'Johan Helsingius' <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>>; Farzaneh Badiei <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The sign-up rooms are different, as I explained. Indeed, we should know the venue, if not the actual room number. But we won’t know the date. Nevertheless, I will try to press
for an early decision given the situation. This is what Andrea told us:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 1:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com">ken@kherman.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Benjamin Akinmoyeje <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com">benakin@gmail.com</a>>; Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>>; Farzaneh Badiei <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Surely we know what day and time we have the room, and what building it is in? Wasn't it Tuesday afternoon?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com">ken@kherman.com</a> <<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com">ken@kherman.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 12:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com">benakin@gmail.com</a>>; Farzaneh Badiei <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>; 'Johan Helsingius' <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Also, best to come to some decisions about the structure of the event (speeches, panel, etc) before inviting guests so we can tell them what we expect.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hopefully we can settle all these details in the next few days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 10:28<br>
<b>To:</b> Ken Herman <<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com">ken@kherman.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com">benakin@gmail.com</a>>; Farzaneh Badiei <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>; 'Johan Helsingius' <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>><br>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I will invite some of the important speakers (NTIA, DC-civil society groups) but I need confirmation of the day and time and if possible room number or at least name of the hotel.
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Regarding the scheduled NCUC sessions, I don't think it's a good idea to create ambiguity about when and where this program is going to be held at this point. Let's get the program
of the special session set, and then you can talk about including some of it in the scheduled session.
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Ken Herman <<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com">ken@kherman.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 10:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com">benakin@gmail.com</a>>; Farzaneh Badiei <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>; 'Johan Helsingius' <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>><br>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks again for the proposed programme. At its meeting last week, the EC agreed this would be a good programme, with the main comment being that perhaps some of this topic
be also included as part of the scheduled NCUC session at ICANN77. Remember that there is already a 90 minute scheduled session that is shared between NCUC and NPOC (there is a separate NCSG meeting). We are working on an agenda for the scheduled meeting.
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This programme would be for a “sign-up” room, which has been requested and won’t be assigned until a few days before the start of ICANN77. These sign-ups are not included
in the meeting programme, nor do they include any A/V. We expect to utilize the promised PIR funding for A/V and publicity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Next steps for this special session is to finalize the programme, and I can work with you and Farzaneh this week. Great if we can touch base in the next few days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 10, 2023 11:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ken Herman <<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com">ken@kherman.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Benjamin Akinmoyeje <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com">benakin@gmail.com</a>>; Farzaneh Badiei <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>; Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This workshop will examine the way nation-state power conflicts erect barriers to global internet access, focusing on DNS. It would cover topics such as how sanctions affect
the provision of DNS services, how ICANN's global policies and contracts intersect with foreign policy pressures, and how certain forms of social media regulations affect Internet access throughout the world. It will explore how Noncommercial stakeholders
in the ICANN environment can address those problems.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">* Farzaneh Badiei, Digital Medusa on her sanctions work</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">* Alan Davidson or Susan Chalmers, NTIA, on U.S. OFAC and its relationship to ICANN</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">* Greg Nojeim from CDT</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">* Milton Mueller, GT IGP on the TikTok ban</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">* Kathleen Burke from Public Knowledge
<a href="mailto:kathleen@publicknowledge.org">kathleen@publicknowledge.org</a> on DNS access restrictions from copyright and trademark interests</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">* TWNIC on cross-strait barriers to Internet access in Asia</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">There would be 4 15-minute presentations from key speakers (Badiei, Davidson, ICANN, Mueller) would be followed by a roundtable discussion featuring:
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<p><span style="color:black">Dr Milton L Mueller, Professor</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:black">School of Public Policy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Georgia Institute of Technology</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:black"><a href="https://internetgovernance.org">Internet Governance Project</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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