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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks Milton. This is very helpful.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps we can arrange an EC chat to help us understand the finances.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Benjamin, what do you think?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 17, 2023 3:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ken Herman <ken@kherman.com>; 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <benakin@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [NCUC-EC] NCUC Financial Picture<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We have approximately $80,000. It is dwindling over time (was about $88,000 4 years ago) because no one has raised new funds. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Ken Herman <ken@kherman.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 16, 2023 2:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu>; 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <benakin@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [NCUC-EC] NCUC Financial Picture<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you, Milton. These are all questions that the EC is examining. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We understand that the funds are available for this initiative should we decide to proceed. As you point out, one important question concerns the value of the website update and in that vein one missing aspect of our discussion is the total NCUC budget envelope. As we are responsible for making expenditure decisions, grateful if you can share with the EC the NCUC financial details. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks again.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> NCUC-EC <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mueller, Milton L<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 15, 2023 9:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Benjamin Akinmoyeje <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com">benakin@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] NCUC Financial Picture<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:white'>We have that money, yes. The important questions are: </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:white'>Is it worth it? What are you getting for that? is it an ongoing expenditure or a one-off design? Are there good plans and commitments to maintain the website?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> Benjamin Akinmoyeje <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com">benakin@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 15, 2023 8:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: [NCUC-EC] NCUC Financial Picture</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello Prof., <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for your response. Here is Ken's question...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The summary is - do we have up to $3000 to spend on a website? More like what is our limit to spend on a project like this?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Benjamin <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ken Herman</span></strong> <<a href="mailto:ken@kherman.com">ken@kherman.com</a>><br>Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 4:57 PM<br>Subject: [NCUC-EC] NCUC Financial Picture<br>To: Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>Cc: NCUC-EC <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=xmsonormal>Hello Milton.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>Happy new year. I hope you are doing well. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>I have a question about NCUC finances, and I understand you are the person to ask! (If not, please accept my apologies and perhaps let me know the right person). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>As you may know, the NCUC Executive Committee is considering a proposal for the update/revamp of the group’s website. As we think about how to proceed, I would like to consider this activity within a wider context of funds availability. In other words, does the NCUC have dedicated resources and, if so, how much and what are the constraints? It occurs to me that we are discussing approving or recommending an action with a $3,000 cost and yet I know nothing about the financial resources that the group has to use at its discretion. (I distinguish this from financial resources “available” to the NCUC, since to me that means there are funds we can apply for from an outside source, such as the budget requests from ICANN org that comes along every now and then).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>Can you help us to have a complete financial picture? It would help us in the EC to make an informed decision about whether or not to proceed with an expenditure on the web site or perhaps invest in other actions that would have a higher priority and/or return. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>Thank you and best regards.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NCUC-EC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>