<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">+1 with Ken<div><br></div><div>I don’t think we need to manage another mailing list. And with respect to older members being in the know, I think all EC calls are recorded and they are open to the full community for them to know what we are doing.</div><div><br></div><div>And lastly about getting advice from the formers members I think we can always tap into them as and when needed. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><font style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">--</font></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="gmail_default"></span>With gratitude</span></div><div><font style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mili Semlani</font></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Journalist & Engagement Manager </span></div><div><div style="line-height: 1.2; padding-bottom: 0px;"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Founder @ <a href="http://youth4ig.asia/" target="_blank">Youth4IG</a><br></span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><font style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font><a href="https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></font> | <font><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></font></font></font></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On 12-Oct-2022, at 14:30, Ken Herman <ken@kherman.com> wrote:<br><br></div><div dir="ltr">

  
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   Thanks, Benjamin, for clarifying. Ines, as Benjamin mentioned, we agreed earlier in the meeting before you joined to clean up the EC list.
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   The bylaws are very clear about the membership of the EC mailing list, along with our obligations as EC members with respect to the to use of the mailing list.
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   Also, I am not clear on the rationale for creating any other kind of list, such as a leadership list. For one thing, it is one more thing EC members have to manage. Also, my understanding is that the purpose of the Discuss list is for more general discussion, including those pertaining to the management of the user constituency. Of course, we are all free to include others we think are relevant to include in messages we send to the EC list on an exceptional basis.
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    On 10/12/2022 5:52 AM EDT Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin@gmail.com> wrote:
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    Dear Ines, 
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     Thank you for the question, first this issue had been raised in previous conversations. However an event during the meeting instigated those of us present to agree to review the EC mailing list.
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     The Bylaw requires the current ECs to be on the EC mailing list.
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     For your reference, I will encourage you to listen to yesterday's meeting's recording or read the meeting's transcript. It will help give context to the situation.
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     On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 10:15 AM h i <<a href="mailto:hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com">hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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      Thank you Andrea. 
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       I also wonder why they were removed from the list. Usually we need advice from former leadership especially former Chairs. Not sure how this decision was made.
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       On Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 01:37 Andrea Glandon <<a href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">andrea.glandon@icann.org</a>> wrote:
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         <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I wanted to note here that I have had questions from Bruna and Rafik RE the reason for their removal from the list.  I explained to both of them that the decision was made for only current EC members to be on the list.<u></u><u></u></span></p> 
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         <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Thank you!<u></u><u></u></span></p> 
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Kind Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p> 
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Andrea<u></u><u></u></span></p> 
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color: black;">From: </span></strong><span style="color: black;">Andrea Glandon <<a href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">andrea.glandon@icann.org</a>><br><strong>Date: </strong>Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:06<br><strong>To: </strong>"<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br><strong>Subject: </strong>Updated NCUC EC Email List<u></u><u></u></span></p> 
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         <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I have updated the NCUC EC email list  to include the members we discussed on the call today.  I have not added Julf as I don’t show he is an NCUC member.  Do you still want him added as the NCSG Chair? Below is a list of the former members, for reference:<u></u><u></u></span></p> 
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