<div dir="ltr">Hi all, <div><br></div><div>Apologies for the delayed response, I was about to fly the moment this thread started and only caught up with it yesterday. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm ok with reallocating the CROP to one of the Marrakesh slots, and my vote goes to Akinremi. </div><div><br></div><div>On the other hand, I would just like to pick up on Bruna's initial point of possibly opening a call for an NCUC-funded traveler. I see this as a good opportunity for us to get some experienced and/or active members on board as we head into phase 2. This could also provide support to our policy engagement in other WGs. </div><div><br></div><div>What do you think? If that is the case, we can send out a call this next week. </div><div><br></div><div>The only thing I would suggest is that we communicate our reasoning in an email to our members so that there are no misunderstandings. </div><div><br></div><div>Look forward to hearing your thoughts.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best, </div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-879542327121615909gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000"><b>Louise Marie Hurel</b></font></div><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="font-size:11px">Research and Project Development Cybersecurity and Digital Liberties Programme | Igarapé Institute</span></font></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Louise_Marie_Hurel/publications" target="_blank"><font size="1">Publications</font></a></p><div><font size="1" color="#000000">Skype: louise.dias</font></div><div><font color="#000000" size="1"><span><a href="mailto:louise@igarape.org.br" target="_blank">louise@igarape.org.br</a></span></font></div><div><font size="1" color="#444444"><a href="mailto:louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com" target="_blank">louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com</a> </font></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 07:39, David Cake <<a href="mailto:dave@davecake.net" target="_blank">dave@davecake.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">I am happy for us to support Akinremi. <div><br></div><div>David<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 3 May 2019, at 12:10 pm, Antonella Perini <<a href="mailto:antomperini@gmail.com" target="_blank">antomperini@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_-879542327121615909gmail-m_4648636960425706872Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="auto"><div>hi!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Akinremi, along with Pascal and Benjamin, was one of my shortlisted candidates, so my vote goes to him.</span></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">best,</font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">A<br></font><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El jue., 2 de may. de 2019 16:05, Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Yes.<br>
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On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 4:03 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
<<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I really need to contact the other selected member today, so @Antonella Perini @David Cake and @Louise Marie Hurel I will wait for your votes until 23h00 utc.<br>
><br>
> Michael and Ines, do you wish to mantain your votes ?<br>
><br>
> best,<br>
> B<br>
><br>
><br>
> Le jeu. 2 mai 2019 à 14:50, Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
>><br>
>> Ok, great. Seeing as my last vote was already for Akinremi, it's an<br>
>> easy decision for me, at least.<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:54 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I guess we have to agreements on using the other crop slot from the pool we had. Having said that, the two runner ups were Adam and Akinremi, you also have to vote on that!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Le jeu. 2 mai 2019 à 13:42, hfaiedh ines <<a href="mailto:hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> then i guess we dont really have a choice other than go back to the list we received for Crop and select from there.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Le jeudi 2 mai 2019, hfaiedh ines <<a href="mailto:hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Hi Bruna<br>
>> >>> question: "CROP proposals need to get regional VPs concurrence by 6th of may - monday".<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Not sure to understand what this means, is this a new info/procedure?<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Until I understand the process, my first thought is of course we must use the CROP slot to not lose it.<br>
>> >>> I recommend we send reminders until tomorrow, and if no new applications come to us, then we go back to the runners up as you suggested.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Le jeudi 2 mai 2019, Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Mike,<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> We did put a new call last week for this other slot - but unfortunately there was no answer to that.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Therefore, the reason why I am now suggesting using the third slot with one of the runner ups is due to no answer whatsoever to the call we put out. But when we decided not to use the first slot for the Barcelona meeting - due to the mess that happened atm - we knew this could happen. Happy to cast your vote to use this slot.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> With regards to NCUC funds, the fact that it will no longer be replenished is a point that I have been observing in the past months, and I don't think I/we acted irresponsibly with such funds. I would even say we have been taking a rather 'austere' approach to it - during this fiscal year we only funded ppl to Barcelona and the IGF.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> But I will wait for Milton's report to state a clearer opinion. Imho such funds are supposed to be used with our members and collaborators and any events. And, while I agree with the overkill argument, it would also be an opportunity of bringing someone from another region.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> But let's wait for the report.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> On Thu, 2 May 2019, 11:21 Michael Karanicolas, <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> Ok, thanks for clarifications. To be clear - my comments are less<br>
>> >>>>> about the amount of cash we're sitting on, than about the fact that<br>
>> >>>>> it's no longer being replenished, which is much more important in<br>
>> >>>>> determining levels of expenditure, in my opinion.<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> If we're truly in a "use-it-or-lose" it position - then I'd support<br>
>> >>>>> granting a second crop slot, unless there are other ideas of how we<br>
>> >>>>> can get something out the door by Monday (I can't think of how else we<br>
>> >>>>> might spend it, and it's too late for a new call).<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> But if we're now funding two travellers to Marrakech... it would seem<br>
>> >>>>> to me like overkill to spend our own funds on an additional slot. Just<br>
>> >>>>> my thoughts.<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:12 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> >>>>> <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>>> ><br>
>> >>>>> > Just asked Milton for a report !<br>
>> >>>>> ><br>
>> >>>>> > On the CROP note, the actual problem is that if we dont decide on it like - today or tomorrow, we will loose this slot as all CROP proposals need to get regional VPs concurrence by 6th of may - monday.<br>
>> >>>>> ><br>
>> >>>>> > Best,<br>
>> >>>>> > bruna<br>
>> >>>>> ><br>
>> >>>>> > Le jeu. 2 mai 2019 à 10:51, Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
>> >>>>> >><br>
>> >>>>> >> 30th of June is the deadline for CROP (pretty sure I highlighted it in previous emails, but apologies if not).<br>
>> >>>>> >><br>
>> >>>>> >> Mike, we did miss a source of income - but we still have a quite significative fund. Either way, I can ask Milton for a 'state of the art' of NCUC account report, if you wish.<br>
>> >>>>> >><br>
>> >>>>> >> Best,<br>
>> >>>>> >> Bruna<br>
>> >>>>> >><br>
>> >>>>> >> Le jeu. 2 mai 2019 à 10:49, Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
>> >>>>> >>><br>
>> >>>>> >>> Hi,<br>
>> >>>>> >>><br>
>> >>>>> >>> When does the fiscal year end (when is the deadline for using the CROP funds)?<br>
>> >>>>> >>><br>
>> >>>>> >>> Seeing as we no longer really have a source of income (right?), I<br>
>> >>>>> >>> would suggest being very careful with how we expend NCUC money.<br>
>> >>>>> >>><br>
>> >>>>> >>> Best,<br>
>> >>>>> >>><br>
>> >>>>> >>> Michael<br>
>> >>>>> >>><br>
>> >>>>> >>><br>
>> >>>>> >>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> >>>>> >>> <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>>> >>> ><br>
>> >>>>> >>> > Dear all,<br>
>> >>>>> >>> ><br>
>> >>>>> >>> > We did not get any applications for Rightscon, and the deadline for using the crop with it is gone. Therefore, for us not to lose the third crop slot, should we use it with a runner up in the crop applications?<br>
>> >>>>> >>> ><br>
>> >>>>> >>> > Additionally, Robin Gross wrote to me a few weeks ago, asking if we had any funding opportunities for Marrakech. This leads me to another question: should we open a call for travel support with NCUC money ? Last time we funded someone I guess was the IGF, so it might be good.<br>
>> >>>>> >>> ><br>
>> >>>>> >>> > Looking forward to hearing back from you asap.<br>
>> >>>>> >>> ><br>
>> >>>>> >>> > Best,<br>
>> >>>>> >>> > --<br>
>> >>>>> >>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> >>>>> >>> ><br>
>> >>>>> >>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> >>>>> >>> > @boomartins<br>
>> >>>>> >>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>> >>>>> >>> > NCUC-EC mailing list<br>
>> >>>>> >>> > <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
>> >>>>> >>> > <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><br>
>> >>>>> >><br>
>> >>>>> >><br>
>> >>>>> >><br>
>> >>>>> >> --<br>
>> >>>>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> >>>>> >><br>
>> >>>>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> >>>>> >> @boomartins<br>
>> >>>>> ><br>
>> >>>>> ><br>
>> >>>>> ><br>
>> >>>>> > --<br>
>> >>>>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> >>>>> ><br>
>> >>>>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> >>>>> > @boomartins<br>
>> >>>>><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> > @boomartins<br>
><br>
><br>
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> --<br>
> Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
><br>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
> @boomartins<br>
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