<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">copying what the funders word by word:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">"Please accept this note as Public Interest Registry’s confirmation that the financial support we offered in 2017 was paid to the Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) with the understanding that it’s leadership would use the funds as it saw fit. <u>The same will be true for 2018 once that invoice is received.</u> If NCUC leadership can administer this year’s support to the benefit of members of either the NCUC or the Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns constituency,<u> so much the better</u>."</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">If EC has any doubts, they can approach the funders.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"></div></div>I<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline">did not want to jump in but I had to because the EC is not being provided with accurate information and you made the nonbinding advice decision unilaterally I believe. Also I saw a couple of interventions here implicitly or explicitly in support of a candidate from non-ec membersm. I am not saying NPOC candidates should not be selected, but I want the EC to be clear that if they decide not to allocate money to NPOC member, it won't be against any rule and they don't have to provide a justification, their justification can even be that there were NCUC members that fit the criteria more (like promising newcomers etc). </div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 3:49 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com">raquino@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Farzaneh<br>
<br>
The idea of asking for advice to other Chairs or relevant people to<br>
the decision predates the ICANN63 NCSG/NCUC/NPOC allocation decision.<br>
You have been a Chair we sought for advice multiple times, as well as<br>
Rafik and on Onboarding Program the mentor issued advice.<br>
I was just about to invite Stephanie as observer to this group, as<br>
advice is never enough.<br>
<br>
You are right, the EC can decide to go against NPOC Chair advice and<br>
that is why I asked for their justification.<br>
<br>
I think, though, you are asking the NCUC EC to assume the funders<br>
would be OK with giving funds always to NCSG/NCUC only when that is<br>
not what was conveyed to us and we were not involved in the<br>
conversation anyway.<span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></span></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Also, Dina Thomas is a member of both NPOC and NCUC so I'm really<br>
puzzled by this intervention you made here on discarding advice from<br>
NPOC Chair, as NCUC Chair.<br>
<br>
It also just worsens the fact this is NCUC EC last allocation of<br>
resources NCSG will have this on its domain in 2019. Can't you wait to<br>
have full power of decision until then?<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Renata<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 4:32 PM, farzaneh badii<br>
<<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> From the beginning, the idea of reaching out to NCSG and NPOC for<br>
> "nonbinding" advice was thrown around by Renata and I don't know if it was<br>
> an EC decision.<br>
><br>
> Anyhow, I believe NCUC EC does not have to take on an NCSG or an NPOC member<br>
> for this round, I have said it multiple times, the founders said in 2018<br>
> NCUC can decide, if decided to include NPOC, then good.<br>
><br>
> If the EC sees that there are NCUC members that should be funded and cannot<br>
> decide on the pool of candidates of NPOC, it is all very justified to select<br>
> two NCUC members for this round too. No other justification is needed.<br>
> Advice was nonbinding.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Farzaneh<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:29 PM <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec-request@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec-request@lists.ncuc.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> 1. Re: Fwd: Application for Travel Support for ICANN63<br>
>> (Bruna Martins dos Santos)<br>
>> 2. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)<br>
>> 3. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> (Bruna Martins dos Santos)<br>
>> 4. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)<br>
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>> Message: 1<br>
>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:48:01 -0300<br>
>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: Renata Aquino <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>>, "Exec. Comm"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Application for Travel Support for ICANN63<br>
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>> I dont think so, Mike. As per usual, we have to slots to fill and the only<br>
>> thing we decided so far was to assign one of those to Shahul. The second<br>
>> one is yet to be considered and all of us but you have yet to select<br>
>> someone.<br>
>><br>
>> Re. the CROP, we can only assign it after GSE has approved our outreach<br>
>> plan. I believe it will most likely be approved but I dont think the<br>
>> decision has been issued yet.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 17:41, Michael Karanicolas <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
>><br>
>> > Ok. So if that's the case, then we only have one slot to assign - and<br>
>> > I guess Shahul has the majority for that?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Then the question that remains is whether we should do a call for CROP<br>
>> > - and if we're hoping to assign one for ICANN63, we should put the<br>
>> > call out soon.<br>
>> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:36 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > Hey all,<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > What about supporting Ben again ? This was smth that was discussed<br>
>> > during Panama and maybe its a way forward. Let it be known that this is<br>
>> > not<br>
>> > yet my vote for the second slot, just a suggestion.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > Also, on the CROP note, I would rather not give the CROP now for the<br>
>> > following reasons:<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > 1. the call was for the travel support - a reimbursement based aid -<br>
>> > maybe if we had advertised it as a CROP we could've had more<br>
>> > applications<br>
>> > from other members than the ones who applied for this call.<br>
>> > > 2. Given that the only member who we could possibly assign the CROP to<br>
>> > has applied to the travel funding as an NPOC member and plans to<br>
>> > represent<br>
>> > the constituency in this capacity, I dont think it would be suitable to<br>
>> > assign this crop just yet.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > Best,<br>
>> > > bruna<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > Em qua, 22 de ago de 2018 às 11:52, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Thank you all for your votes.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Shahul Hameed has now EC Majority.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Dina Thomas has 1 vote and NPOC Chair support.<br>
>> > >> Should you not wish to support the candidate, please send in your<br>
>> > justification.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> The CROP slot for an EU member is still a hypothetical, until we know<br>
>> > >> if our CROP Outreach Plan has been approved or not.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> And please refrain from identifying people with immigration issues,<br>
>> > >> this is personal data and should not be published on our open list.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> We are missing votes from NCUC EU and a vote for the 2nd slot from<br>
>> > >> NCUC AP, NCUC AF, NCUC LAC<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Best,<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Renata<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > ><br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > --<br>
>> > > Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> > > @boomartins<br>
>> > > _______________________________________________<br>
>> > > NCUC-EC mailing list<br>
>> > > <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
>> > > <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *<br>
>><br>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> @boomartins<br>
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>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:17:41 -0300<br>
>> From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>, Maryam Bakoshi<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
>> Cc: "Exec. Comm" <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP<br>
>> outreach plan<br>
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>> I am at a loss as well, Michael.<br>
>><br>
>> The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval, just<br>
>> like last year.<br>
>> We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along the<br>
>> lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.<br>
>> We had 2 VPs in favor<br>
>><br>
>> This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.<br>
>> Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with<br>
>> any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.<br>
>><br>
>> Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a<br>
>> response. Probably direct him to your blog post.<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Renata<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you add<br>
>> >> anything to this response?<br>
>> >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>
>> >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
>> >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31<br>
>> >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> >> Para: "<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> Cc:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Dear Renata,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach plan.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff to<br>
>> >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN meetings.<br>
>> >> Also<br>
>> >> there is a lack of concrete metrics. It is fine, but I think it could<br>
>> >> be<br>
>> >> more detailed and actionable.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> —<br>
>> >> Many thanks,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator<br>
>> >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
>> >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> _______________________________________________<br>
>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
>> >> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><br>
>><br>
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>><br>
>> Message: 3<br>
>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:20:29 -0300<br>
>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Renata Aquino <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>, Maryam Bakoshi<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>>, "Exec. Comm" <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP<br>
>> outreach plan<br>
>> Message-ID:<br>
>><br>
>> <<a href="mailto:CADAEEV3zmxHyeJ_RQ4TX-0JXdF0w9Cy8oOKL8kEc4FFesyHriQ@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">CADAEEV3zmxHyeJ_RQ4TX-0JXdF0w9Cy8oOKL8kEc4FFesyHriQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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>><br>
>> As per my understanding, Chris's consideration was for us to include a<br>
>> sentence in our outreach plan that would express the constituency's<br>
>> willingness to work closely with GSE teams in identifying other meetings<br>
>> where the CROP would be applicable and that our members could be sponsored<br>
>> to. - I would have problems with that as we mentioned all 3 ICANN<br>
>> meetings given that there was not yet an understanding regarding the<br>
>> meetings other than the ICANN ones that the CROP would be applicable to.<br>
>><br>
>> Is that correct, @Maryam Bakoshi <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>> ?<br>
>><br>
>> Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 18:18, Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> escreveu:<br>
>><br>
>> > I am at a loss as well, Michael.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval, just<br>
>> > like last year.<br>
>> > We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along the<br>
>> > lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.<br>
>> > We had 2 VPs in favor<br>
>> ><br>
>> > This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.<br>
>> > Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with<br>
>> > any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a<br>
>> > response. Probably direct him to your blog post.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Best,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Renata<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > > wrote:<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Hi<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you add<br>
>> > >> anything to this response?<br>
>> > >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>
>> > >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
>> > >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31<br>
>> > >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> > >> Para: "<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > >> Cc:<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Dear Renata,<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach<br>
>> > >> plan.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff to<br>
>> > >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN<br>
>> > >> meetings.<br>
>> > Also<br>
>> > >> there is a lack of concrete metrics. It is fine, but I think it<br>
>> > >> could<br>
>> > be<br>
>> > >> more detailed and actionable.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> —<br>
>> > >> Many thanks,<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator<br>
>> > >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
>> > >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> _______________________________________________<br>
>> > >> NCUC-EC mailing list<br>
>> > >> <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
>> > >> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>> > NCUC-EC mailing list<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
>> > <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *<br>
>><br>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> @boomartins<br>
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>> From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>, Maryam Bakoshi<br>
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>> Maryam can you follow up on GSE sponsorship plan again please?<br>
>><br>
>> But Bruna, he says nothing of other meetings but regional work.<br>
>> So again, at a loss here. I thought we were very mindful of NA.<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 6:20 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > As per my understanding, Chris's consideration was for us to include a<br>
>> > sentence in our outreach plan that would express the constituency's<br>
>> > willingness to work closely with GSE teams in identifying other meetings<br>
>> > where the CROP would be applicable and that our members could be<br>
>> > sponsored<br>
>> > to. - I would have problems with that as we mentioned all 3 ICANN<br>
>> > meetings<br>
>> > given that there was not yet an understanding regarding the meetings<br>
>> > other<br>
>> > than the ICANN ones that the CROP would be applicable to.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Is that correct, @Maryam Bakoshi ?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 18:18, Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I am at a loss as well, Michael.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval, just<br>
>> >> like last year.<br>
>> >> We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along the<br>
>> >> lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.<br>
>> >> We had 2 VPs in favor<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.<br>
>> >> Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with<br>
>> >> any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a<br>
>> >> response. Probably direct him to your blog post.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Best,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Renata<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
>> >> > <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> > wrote:<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Hi<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you add<br>
>> >> >> anything to this response?<br>
>> >> >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>
>> >> >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
>> >> >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31<br>
>> >> >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> >> >> Para: "<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> >> Cc:<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Dear Renata,<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach<br>
>> >> >> plan.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff<br>
>> >> >> to<br>
>> >> >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN<br>
>> >> >> meetings.<br>
>> >> >> Also<br>
>> >> >> there is a lack of concrete metrics. It is fine, but I think it<br>
>> >> >> could<br>
>> >> >> be<br>
>> >> >> more detailed and actionable.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> —<br>
>> >> >> Many thanks,<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator<br>
>> >> >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
>> >> >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
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>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> > @boomartins<br>
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