<div><div dir="auto">Definitely why I reconsidered my initial thoughts and considerations! But on a side note, it might be because I’ve only been in the space not too long, I find a bit of added value in plugging in to the commercial stakeholder group mindset in general: noncommercial Strategy building wise, I think it could help.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Good luck on the EPDP!!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">E.</div><div dir="auto">—</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:47 AM Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Elsa:<br>
I'm on the ePDP. We will meet face to face in Los Angeles in a special meeting and again in Barcelona. <br>
In my view, this further undermines the need for another intersessional meeting. First, the actively engaged people have less time; second, we are already interacting with other stakeholders in our "house" quite a bit. <br>
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Further, the whole idea that we have a special bond with the other non-contracted constituencies is rather amusing given that our main policy enemies in the ePDP is in fact the commercial stakeholders group. We know quite well what they think about most issues and we know they don't change that much. <br>
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--MM<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: NCUC-EC [mailto:<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 8:43 PM<br>
> To: Elsa S <<a href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com" target="_blank">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: Exec. Comm <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: FY19 Intersessional - your thoughts?<br>
> <br>
> Hi Elsa<br>
> <br>
> Thanks for commenting.<br>
> Everyone else, unless I have EC majority objecting to Farzaneh/Stephanie<br>
> and Joan`s position, I won't object either.<br>
> Elsa I will consider your comment an abstain. Please correct me if you wish.<br>
> <br>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Elsa S <<a href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com" target="_blank">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > I would definitely agree with having an intersessional every other<br>
> > year, however I’m also considering the fact that we have an exeptional<br>
> > PDP happening this year. Unsure if this could play a role in our need<br>
> > for holding an intersessional or not.<br>
> ><br>
> > E.<br>
> > —<br>
> ><br>
> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 3:15 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Dear EC<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Please see thread below. I'll sing the same song unless any of you<br>
> >> have any objection in the next 24h.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best,<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> >> From: Joan Kerr <<a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" target="_blank">joankerr@fbsc.org</a>><br>
> >> Date: Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:35 PM<br>
> >> Subject: Re: FY19 Intersessional - your thoughts?<br>
> >> To: farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >> Cc: "Selli, Claudia" <<a href="mailto:cs574w@intl.att.com" target="_blank">cs574w@intl.att.com</a>>, Mary Wong<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>>,<br>
> >> Brian Winterfeldt <Brian@winterfeldt.law>, "Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben"<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>>, Chantelle Doerksen<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:chantelle.doerksen@icann.org" target="_blank">chantelle.doerksen@icann.org</a>>, Maryam Bakoshi<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>>, Benedetta Rossi<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:benedetta.rossi@icann.org" target="_blank">benedetta.rossi@icann.org</a>><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Hi Farzi, Mary<br>
> >><br>
> >> Yes, I recall that NCSG supported avoiding NCPH in 2019, although<br>
> >> there was a suggestion to discuss having it every other year, so 2020.<br>
> >> Thanks,<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:41 AM farzaneh badii<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I think NCSG supports Claudia and BC proposal, as we also said in<br>
> >> > our public comment but I will re-check with the NCSG PC and get back to<br>
> you.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Farzaneh<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:34 AM Selli, Claudia<br>
> >> > <<a href="mailto:cs574w@intl.att.com" target="_blank">cs574w@intl.att.com</a>><br>
> >> > wrote:<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Hi Mary<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> The BC has been among the groups that thought an NCPH could be<br>
> >> >> avoided in FY 19.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Regards<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Claudia<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> From: Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 2:53 AM<br>
> >> >> To: Selli, Claudia <<a href="mailto:cs574w@intl.att.com" target="_blank">cs574w@intl.att.com</a>>; farzaneh badii<br>
> >> >> <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>; Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
> >> >> <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>>; Joan Kerr <<a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" target="_blank">joankerr@fbsc.org</a>>; Brian<br>
> >> >> Winterfeldt <Brian@Winterfeldt.law>; Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben<br>
> >> >> <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><br>
> >> >> Cc: Chantelle Doerksen <<a href="mailto:chantelle.doerksen@icann.org" target="_blank">chantelle.doerksen@icann.org</a>>; Maryam<br>
> >> >> Bakoshi <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>>; Benedetta Rossi<br>
> >> >> <<a href="mailto:benedetta.rossi@icann.org" target="_blank">benedetta.rossi@icann.org</a>><br>
> >> >> Subject: FY19 Intersessional - your thoughts?<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Dear Farzaneh, Joan, Renata, Claudia, Brian and Wolf-Ulrich,<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I’m writing to follow up with you to ask whether there is any<br>
> >> >> interest among the various NCPH groups to hold an Inter-sessional<br>
> >> >> meeting again this FY19. I recall that staff received a fair<br>
> >> >> amount of feedback from the January 2018 meeting that basically<br>
> >> >> noted the utility of such a meeting, but which seemed to suggest<br>
> >> >> that holding it annually may not be necessary. For example, a few<br>
> >> >> people suggested that it may be more productive and useful to hold it<br>
> once every two years at the most.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Given the lead time that we will need to plan for such a meeting,<br>
> >> >> as well as the heavy workload that you and your community groups<br>
> >> >> have at present, I thought I would write to seek your feedback and<br>
> >> >> guidance on this question. Thank you!<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Best regards,<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Mary<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Mary Wong<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Vice President, Strategic Community Operations, Planning &<br>
> >> >> Engagement<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Email: <a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Telephone: +1-603-5744892<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >><br>
> >> Joan Kerr,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Entrepreneur, Artist, Humanitarian<br>
> >><br>
> >> T: +1 (416) 907-0783<br>
> >><br>
> >> Skype: joankerr_fbsc<br>
> >><br>
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> >><br>
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> >><br>
> >> Chair, Sustainable Agriculture, Global Humanitarian Technology<br>
> >> Conference<br>
> >><br>
> >> Chair: IEEE Smart Villages Project, Sustainable Agriculture Working<br>
> >> Group<br>
> >><br>
> >> Chair: ICANN Not for Profit Operational Concerns Constituency<br>
> >><br>
> >> Recipient of the United Nations Civil Society Award (WSIS 2004)<br>
> >><br>
> >> Recipient, Region of Durham Community Partnership Award<br>
> >><br>
> >> Advisor, IEEE Humanitarian Initiatives Committee<br>
> >><br>
> >> Advisor, Climate Smart Agriculture Youth Network, (CSAYN) Global<br>
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</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">--<br><br>Elsa Saade<br>Consultant</div></div><div>Gulf Centre for Human Rights</div><div>Twitter: @Elsa_Saade</div></div></div></div></div>