<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">From the beginning, the idea of reaching out to NCSG and NPOC for "nonbinding" advice was thrown around by Renata and I don't know if it was an EC decision. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Anyhow, I believe NCUC EC does not have to take on an NCSG or an NPOC member for this round, I have said it multiple times, the founders said in 2018 NCUC can decide, if decided to include NPOC, then good. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">If the EC sees that there are NCUC members that should be funded and cannot decide on the pool of candidates of NPOC, it is all very justified to select two NCUC members for this round too. No other justification is needed. Advice was nonbinding. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:29 PM <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec-request@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-ec-request@lists.ncuc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send NCUC-EC mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Fwd: Application for Travel Support for ICANN63<br>
(Bruna Martins dos Santos)<br>
2. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
(Renata Aquino Ribeiro)<br>
3. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
(Bruna Martins dos Santos)<br>
4. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
(Renata Aquino Ribeiro)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:48:01 -0300<br>
From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: Renata Aquino <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>>, "Exec. Comm"<br>
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I dont think so, Mike. As per usual, we have to slots to fill and the only<br>
thing we decided so far was to assign one of those to Shahul. The second<br>
one is yet to be considered and all of us but you have yet to select<br>
someone.<br>
<br>
Re. the CROP, we can only assign it after GSE has approved our outreach<br>
plan. I believe it will most likely be approved but I dont think the<br>
decision has been issued yet.<br>
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Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 17:41, Michael Karanicolas <<br>
<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
<br>
> Ok. So if that's the case, then we only have one slot to assign - and<br>
> I guess Shahul has the majority for that?<br>
><br>
> Then the question that remains is whether we should do a call for CROP<br>
> - and if we're hoping to assign one for ICANN63, we should put the<br>
> call out soon.<br>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:36 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
> <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hey all,<br>
> ><br>
> > What about supporting Ben again ? This was smth that was discussed<br>
> during Panama and maybe its a way forward. Let it be known that this is not<br>
> yet my vote for the second slot, just a suggestion.<br>
> ><br>
> > Also, on the CROP note, I would rather not give the CROP now for the<br>
> following reasons:<br>
> ><br>
> > 1. the call was for the travel support - a reimbursement based aid -<br>
> maybe if we had advertised it as a CROP we could've had more applications<br>
> from other members than the ones who applied for this call.<br>
> > 2. Given that the only member who we could possibly assign the CROP to<br>
> has applied to the travel funding as an NPOC member and plans to represent<br>
> the constituency in this capacity, I dont think it would be suitable to<br>
> assign this crop just yet.<br>
> ><br>
> > Best,<br>
> > bruna<br>
> ><br>
> > Em qua, 22 de ago de 2018 às 11:52, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<br>
> <a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thank you all for your votes.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Shahul Hameed has now EC Majority.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Dina Thomas has 1 vote and NPOC Chair support.<br>
> >> Should you not wish to support the candidate, please send in your<br>
> justification.<br>
> >><br>
> >> The CROP slot for an EU member is still a hypothetical, until we know<br>
> >> if our CROP Outreach Plan has been approved or not.<br>
> >><br>
> >> And please refrain from identifying people with immigration issues,<br>
> >> this is personal data and should not be published on our open list.<br>
> >><br>
> >> We are missing votes from NCUC EU and a vote for the 2nd slot from<br>
> >> NCUC AP, NCUC AF, NCUC LAC<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Renata<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
> ><br>
> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
> > @boomartins<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > NCUC-EC mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
> > <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><br>
><br>
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*Bruna Martins dos Santos *<br>
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Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
@boomartins<br>
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Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:17:41 -0300<br>
From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>, Maryam Bakoshi<br>
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I am at a loss as well, Michael.<br>
<br>
The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval, just<br>
like last year.<br>
We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along the<br>
lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.<br>
We had 2 VPs in favor<br>
<br>
This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.<br>
Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with<br>
any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.<br>
<br>
Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a<br>
response. Probably direct him to your blog post.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Renata<br>
<br>
<br>
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On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas<br>
<<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi<br>
>><br>
>> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you add<br>
>> anything to this response?<br>
>> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>
>> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
>> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31<br>
>> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> Para: "<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Cc:<br>
>><br>
>> Dear Renata,<br>
>><br>
>> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach plan.<br>
>><br>
>> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff to<br>
>> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN meetings. Also<br>
>> there is a lack of concrete metrics. It is fine, but I think it could be<br>
>> more detailed and actionable.<br>
>><br>
>> —<br>
>> Many thanks,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator<br>
>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
>> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>> <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:20:29 -0300<br>
From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Renata Aquino <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>, Maryam Bakoshi<br>
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As per my understanding, Chris's consideration was for us to include a<br>
sentence in our outreach plan that would express the constituency's<br>
willingness to work closely with GSE teams in identifying other meetings<br>
where the CROP would be applicable and that our members could be sponsored<br>
to. - I would have problems with that as we mentioned all 3 ICANN<br>
meetings given that there was not yet an understanding regarding the<br>
meetings other than the ICANN ones that the CROP would be applicable to.<br>
<br>
Is that correct, @Maryam Bakoshi <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>> ?<br>
<br>
Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 18:18, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
escreveu:<br>
<br>
> I am at a loss as well, Michael.<br>
><br>
> The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval, just<br>
> like last year.<br>
> We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along the<br>
> lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.<br>
> We had 2 VPs in favor<br>
><br>
> This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.<br>
> Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with<br>
> any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.<br>
><br>
> Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a<br>
> response. Probably direct him to your blog post.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Renata<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas<br>
> <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?<br>
> ><br>
> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<br>
> <a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Hi<br>
> >><br>
> >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you add<br>
> >> anything to this response?<br>
> >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>
> >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
> >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31<br>
> >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
> >> Para: "<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >> Cc:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Dear Renata,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach plan.<br>
> >><br>
> >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff to<br>
> >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN meetings.<br>
> Also<br>
> >> there is a lack of concrete metrics. It is fine, but I think it could<br>
> be<br>
> >> more detailed and actionable.<br>
> >><br>
> >> —<br>
> >> Many thanks,<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator<br>
> >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
> >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> _______________________________________________<br>
> >> NCUC-EC mailing list<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
> >> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
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Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:28:14 -0300<br>
From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Maryam can you follow up on GSE sponsorship plan again please?<br>
<br>
But Bruna, he says nothing of other meetings but regional work.<br>
So again, at a loss here. I thought we were very mindful of NA.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 6:20 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
<<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> As per my understanding, Chris's consideration was for us to include a<br>
> sentence in our outreach plan that would express the constituency's<br>
> willingness to work closely with GSE teams in identifying other meetings<br>
> where the CROP would be applicable and that our members could be sponsored<br>
> to. - I would have problems with that as we mentioned all 3 ICANN meetings<br>
> given that there was not yet an understanding regarding the meetings other<br>
> than the ICANN ones that the CROP would be applicable to.<br>
><br>
> Is that correct, @Maryam Bakoshi ?<br>
><br>
> Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 18:18, Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
> <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
>><br>
>> I am at a loss as well, Michael.<br>
>><br>
>> The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval, just<br>
>> like last year.<br>
>> We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along the<br>
>> lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.<br>
>> We had 2 VPs in favor<br>
>><br>
>> This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.<br>
>> Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with<br>
>> any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.<br>
>><br>
>> Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a<br>
>> response. Probably direct him to your blog post.<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Renata<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you add<br>
>> >> anything to this response?<br>
>> >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>
>> >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
>> >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31<br>
>> >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> >> Para: "<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> Cc:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Dear Renata,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach plan.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff to<br>
>> >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN meetings.<br>
>> >> Also<br>
>> >> there is a lack of concrete metrics. It is fine, but I think it could<br>
>> >> be<br>
>> >> more detailed and actionable.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> —<br>
>> >> Many thanks,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator<br>
>> >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
>> >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> _______________________________________________<br>
>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
>> >> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><br>
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