<div><div dir="auto">I trust NCUC EC will decide in the best interest of NCUC. I don't want to create too much noise so won't answer baseless accusations. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think the idea to ask npoc and ncsg for non-binding advice was your idea and you never consulted with your EC before putting the idea forward. I think I was quite clear on that. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 6:14 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com">raquino@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Farzaneh<br>
<br>
So now the NCUC can talk about the process of communication with the funders?<br>
<br>
Interesting since the NCUC had requested a meeting with you to discuss<br>
this when it was in development and the request was denied.<br>
<br>
Also you think this is an unilateral decision yet you`ve never spoke<br>
about it before in NCSG open list and this list, and you also advised<br>
on NCSG member<br>
<br>
Had there been NCSG candidades, would you be so adamant about<br>
defending them as do discarding NPOC ones?<br>
<br>
Jump in and try to manipulate the EC all you want to, since I was even<br>
asked before by NCSG members to remove all of the EC, I have no doubts<br>
to the lengths you can go.<br>
<br>
NCUC has lost everything to NCSG in 2018, PIR Representation, funds<br>
exclusively to NCUC members, At-Large outreach, now you want the EC to<br>
be an extension of NCSG too.<br>
<br>
I can only be glad I`m leaving not to see this.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Renata<br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 5:02 PM, farzaneh badii<br>
<<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> copying what the funders word by word:<br>
> "Please accept this note as Public Interest Registry’s confirmation that the<br>
> financial support we offered in 2017 was paid to the Non-Commercial Users<br>
> Constituency (NCUC) with the understanding that it’s leadership would use<br>
> the funds as it saw fit. The same will be true for 2018 once that invoice is<br>
> received. If NCUC leadership can administer this year’s support to the<br>
> benefit of members of either the NCUC or the Not-for-Profit Operational<br>
> Concerns constituency, so much the better."<br>
><br>
> If EC has any doubts, they can approach the funders.<br>
><br>
> I did not want to jump in but I had to because the EC is not being provided<br>
> with accurate information and you made the nonbinding advice decision<br>
> unilaterally I believe. Also I saw a couple of interventions here implicitly<br>
> or explicitly in support of a candidate from non-ec membersm. I am not<br>
> saying NPOC candidates should not be selected, but I want the EC to be clear<br>
> that if they decide not to allocate money to NPOC member, it won't be<br>
> against any rule and they don't have to provide a justification, their<br>
> justification can even be that there were NCUC members that fit the criteria<br>
> more (like promising newcomers etc).<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 3:49 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Farzaneh<br>
>><br>
>> The idea of asking for advice to other Chairs or relevant people to<br>
>> the decision predates the ICANN63 NCSG/NCUC/NPOC allocation decision.<br>
>> You have been a Chair we sought for advice multiple times, as well as<br>
>> Rafik and on Onboarding Program the mentor issued advice.<br>
>> I was just about to invite Stephanie as observer to this group, as<br>
>> advice is never enough.<br>
>><br>
>> You are right, the EC can decide to go against NPOC Chair advice and<br>
>> that is why I asked for their justification.<br>
>><br>
>> I think, though, you are asking the NCUC EC to assume the funders<br>
>> would be OK with giving funds always to NCSG/NCUC only when that is<br>
>> not what was conveyed to us and we were not involved in the<br>
>> conversation anyway.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Also, Dina Thomas is a member of both NPOC and NCUC so I'm really<br>
>> puzzled by this intervention you made here on discarding advice from<br>
>> NPOC Chair, as NCUC Chair.<br>
>><br>
>> It also just worsens the fact this is NCUC EC last allocation of<br>
>> resources NCSG will have this on its domain in 2019. Can't you wait to<br>
>> have full power of decision until then?<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Renata<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 4:32 PM, farzaneh badii<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > From the beginning, the idea of reaching out to NCSG and NPOC for<br>
>> > "nonbinding" advice was thrown around by Renata and I don't know if it<br>
>> > was<br>
>> > an EC decision.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Anyhow, I believe NCUC EC does not have to take on an NCSG or an NPOC<br>
>> > member<br>
>> > for this round, I have said it multiple times, the founders said in 2018<br>
>> > NCUC can decide, if decided to include NPOC, then good.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > If the EC sees that there are NCUC members that should be funded and<br>
>> > cannot<br>
>> > decide on the pool of candidates of NPOC, it is all very justified to<br>
>> > select<br>
>> > two NCUC members for this round too. No other justification is needed.<br>
>> > Advice was nonbinding.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Farzaneh<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:29 PM <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec-request@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec-request@lists.ncuc.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
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>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Today's Topics:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 1. Re: Fwd: Application for Travel Support for ICANN63<br>
>> >> (Bruna Martins dos Santos)<br>
>> >> 2. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> >> (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)<br>
>> >> 3. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> >> (Bruna Martins dos Santos)<br>
>> >> 4. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> >> (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Message: 1<br>
>> >> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:48:01 -0300<br>
>> >> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> To: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> Cc: Renata Aquino <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>>, "Exec. Comm"<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
>> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Application for Travel Support for ICANN63<br>
>> >> Message-ID:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <CADAEEV0WQYZV5dLmuDNjpsEkLHn0FoVAbFzacVv=<a href="mailto:RN8g4aa3Xg@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">RN8g4aa3Xg@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I dont think so, Mike. As per usual, we have to slots to fill and the<br>
>> >> only<br>
>> >> thing we decided so far was to assign one of those to Shahul. The<br>
>> >> second<br>
>> >> one is yet to be considered and all of us but you have yet to select<br>
>> >> someone.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Re. the CROP, we can only assign it after GSE has approved our outreach<br>
>> >> plan. I believe it will most likely be approved but I dont think the<br>
>> >> decision has been issued yet.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 17:41, Michael Karanicolas <<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> > Ok. So if that's the case, then we only have one slot to assign - and<br>
>> >> > I guess Shahul has the majority for that?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Then the question that remains is whether we should do a call for<br>
>> >> > CROP<br>
>> >> > - and if we're hoping to assign one for ICANN63, we should put the<br>
>> >> > call out soon.<br>
>> >> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:36 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> >> > <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > > Hey all,<br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > > What about supporting Ben again ? This was smth that was discussed<br>
>> >> > during Panama and maybe its a way forward. Let it be known that this<br>
>> >> > is<br>
>> >> > not<br>
>> >> > yet my vote for the second slot, just a suggestion.<br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > > Also, on the CROP note, I would rather not give the CROP now for<br>
>> >> > > the<br>
>> >> > following reasons:<br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > > 1. the call was for the travel support - a reimbursement based aid<br>
>> >> > > -<br>
>> >> > maybe if we had advertised it as a CROP we could've had more<br>
>> >> > applications<br>
>> >> > from other members than the ones who applied for this call.<br>
>> >> > > 2. Given that the only member who we could possibly assign the CROP<br>
>> >> > > to<br>
>> >> > has applied to the travel funding as an NPOC member and plans to<br>
>> >> > represent<br>
>> >> > the constituency in this capacity, I dont think it would be suitable<br>
>> >> > to<br>
>> >> > assign this crop just yet.<br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > > Best,<br>
>> >> > > bruna<br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > > Em qua, 22 de ago de 2018 às 11:52, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<br>
>> >> > <a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> Thank you all for your votes.<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> Shahul Hameed has now EC Majority.<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> Dina Thomas has 1 vote and NPOC Chair support.<br>
>> >> > >> Should you not wish to support the candidate, please send in your<br>
>> >> > justification.<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> The CROP slot for an EU member is still a hypothetical, until we<br>
>> >> > >> know<br>
>> >> > >> if our CROP Outreach Plan has been approved or not.<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> And please refrain from identifying people with immigration<br>
>> >> > >> issues,<br>
>> >> > >> this is personal data and should not be published on our open<br>
>> >> > >> list.<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> We are missing votes from NCUC EU and a vote for the 2nd slot from<br>
>> >> > >> NCUC AP, NCUC AF, NCUC LAC<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> Best,<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> Renata<br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > > --<br>
>> >> > > Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> >> > > @boomartins<br>
>> >> > > _______________________________________________<br>
>> >> > > NCUC-EC mailing list<br>
>> >> > > <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
>> >> > > <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> --<br>
>> >> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> >> @boomartins<br>
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>> >><br>
>> >> ------------------------------<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Message: 2<br>
>> >> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:17:41 -0300<br>
>> >> From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> To: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>, Maryam Bakoshi<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
>> >> Cc: "Exec. Comm" <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
>> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP<br>
>> >> outreach plan<br>
>> >> Message-ID:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <CAMokdMzB7V0tT1sdFZANy-evf-B0F1+j3MteZZ=<a href="mailto:WVwKZKiReKw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">WVwKZKiReKw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I am at a loss as well, Michael.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval, just<br>
>> >> like last year.<br>
>> >> We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along the<br>
>> >> lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.<br>
>> >> We had 2 VPs in favor<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.<br>
>> >> Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with<br>
>> >> any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a<br>
>> >> response. Probably direct him to your blog post.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Best,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Renata<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
>> >> > <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> > wrote:<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Hi<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you add<br>
>> >> >> anything to this response?<br>
>> >> >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>
>> >> >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
>> >> >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31<br>
>> >> >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> >> >> Para: "<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> >> Cc:<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Dear Renata,<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach<br>
>> >> >> plan.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff<br>
>> >> >> to<br>
>> >> >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN<br>
>> >> >> meetings.<br>
>> >> >> Also<br>
>> >> >> there is a lack of concrete metrics. It is fine, but I think it<br>
>> >> >> could<br>
>> >> >> be<br>
>> >> >> more detailed and actionable.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> —<br>
>> >> >> Many thanks,<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator<br>
>> >> >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
>> >> >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________<br>
>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list<br>
>> >> >> <a href="mailto:NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
>> >> >> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ------------------------------<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Message: 3<br>
>> >> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:20:29 -0300<br>
>> >> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> To: Renata Aquino <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> Cc: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>, Maryam Bakoshi<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>>, "Exec. Comm"<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
>> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP<br>
>> >> outreach plan<br>
>> >> Message-ID:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:CADAEEV3zmxHyeJ_RQ4TX-0JXdF0w9Cy8oOKL8kEc4FFesyHriQ@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">CADAEEV3zmxHyeJ_RQ4TX-0JXdF0w9Cy8oOKL8kEc4FFesyHriQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> As per my understanding, Chris's consideration was for us to include a<br>
>> >> sentence in our outreach plan that would express the constituency's<br>
>> >> willingness to work closely with GSE teams in identifying other<br>
>> >> meetings<br>
>> >> where the CROP would be applicable and that our members could be<br>
>> >> sponsored<br>
>> >> to. - I would have problems with that as we mentioned all 3 ICANN<br>
>> >> meetings given that there was not yet an understanding regarding the<br>
>> >> meetings other than the ICANN ones that the CROP would be applicable<br>
>> >> to.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Is that correct, @Maryam Bakoshi <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>> ?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 18:18, Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> escreveu:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> > I am at a loss as well, Michael.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval,<br>
>> >> > just<br>
>> >> > like last year.<br>
>> >> > We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along<br>
>> >> > the<br>
>> >> > lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.<br>
>> >> > We had 2 VPs in favor<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.<br>
>> >> > Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with<br>
>> >> > any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a<br>
>> >> > response. Probably direct him to your blog post.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Best,<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Renata<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas<br>
>> >> > <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> > > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?<br>
>> >> > ><br>
>> >> > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<br>
>> >> > <a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> > > wrote:<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> Hi<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you<br>
>> >> > >> add<br>
>> >> > >> anything to this response?<br>
>> >> > >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>
>> >> > >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
>> >> > >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31<br>
>> >> > >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> >> > >> Para: "<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> > >> Cc:<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> Dear Renata,<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach<br>
>> >> > >> plan.<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff<br>
>> >> > >> to<br>
>> >> > >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN<br>
>> >> > >> meetings.<br>
>> >> > Also<br>
>> >> > >> there is a lack of concrete metrics. It is fine, but I think it<br>
>> >> > >> could<br>
>> >> > be<br>
>> >> > >> more detailed and actionable.<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> —<br>
>> >> > >> Many thanks,<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator<br>
>> >> > >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
>> >> > >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777<br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >><br>
>> >> > >> _______________________________________________<br>
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>> >> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *<br>
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>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
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>> >> Message: 4<br>
>> >> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:28:14 -0300<br>
>> >> From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> Cc: Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>, Maryam Bakoshi<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>>, "Exec. Comm"<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
>> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP<br>
>> >> outreach plan<br>
>> >> Message-ID:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:CAMokdMx1Cnah1WqS4VF7qkDyvU0tDrywtjb9JJE430ifB1mDvA@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">CAMokdMx1Cnah1WqS4VF7qkDyvU0tDrywtjb9JJE430ifB1mDvA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> >> Maryam can you follow up on GSE sponsorship plan again please?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> But Bruna, he says nothing of other meetings but regional work.<br>
>> >> So again, at a loss here. I thought we were very mindful of NA.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 6:20 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> > As per my understanding, Chris's consideration was for us to include<br>
>> >> > a<br>
>> >> > sentence in our outreach plan that would express the constituency's<br>
>> >> > willingness to work closely with GSE teams in identifying other<br>
>> >> > meetings<br>
>> >> > where the CROP would be applicable and that our members could be<br>
>> >> > sponsored<br>
>> >> > to. - I would have problems with that as we mentioned all 3 ICANN<br>
>> >> > meetings<br>
>> >> > given that there was not yet an understanding regarding the meetings<br>
>> >> > other<br>
>> >> > than the ICANN ones that the CROP would be applicable to.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Is that correct, @Maryam Bakoshi ?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 18:18, Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
>> >> > <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> I am at a loss as well, Michael.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval,<br>
>> >> >> just<br>
>> >> >> like last year.<br>
>> >> >> We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along<br>
>> >> >> the<br>
>> >> >> lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.<br>
>> >> >> We had 2 VPs in favor<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.<br>
>> >> >> Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with<br>
>> >> >> any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as<br>
>> >> >> a<br>
>> >> >> response. Probably direct him to your blog post.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Best,<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Renata<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas<br>
>> >> >> <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> >> > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
>> >> >> > <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> >> > wrote:<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> Hi<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you<br>
>> >> >> >> add<br>
>> >> >> >> anything to this response?<br>
>> >> >> >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>
>> >> >> >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
>> >> >> >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31<br>
>> >> >> >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan<br>
>> >> >> >> Para: "<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> >> >> Cc:<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> Dear Renata,<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach<br>
>> >> >> >> plan.<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org<br>
>> >> >> >> staff<br>
>> >> >> >> to<br>
>> >> >> >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN<br>
>> >> >> >> meetings.<br>
>> >> >> >> Also<br>
>> >> >> >> there is a lack of concrete metrics. It is fine, but I think it<br>
>> >> >> >> could<br>
>> >> >> >> be<br>
>> >> >> >> more detailed and actionable.<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> —<br>
>> >> >> >> Many thanks,<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator<br>
>> >> >> >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
>> >> >> >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >><br>
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>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > --<br>
>> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> >> > @boomartins<br>
>> >><br>
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