<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">with pleasure Tapani, since I am not at all you have not seen my emails on NCSG mailing list nor NPOC and have not been forwarded , I draw your attention to the copy paste of the email I sent to NPOC EC and Joan on 7 May. I don;t know if they have an archive.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">And even with more pleasure, I would like to bring your attention to this on NCSG:</div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><a href="https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1806&L=NCSG-DISCUSS&P=82546">https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1806&L=NCSG-DISCUSS&P=82546</a></font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From:<span> </span><b class="gmail_sendername">farzaneh badii</b><span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Mon, May 7, 2018 at 3:22 PM<br>Subject: Re: [NPOC Excom] NPOC funds<br>To: Joan Kerr <<a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">joankerr@fbsc.org</a>><br>Cc: Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:Lanfran@yorku.ca" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">Lanfran@yorku.ca</a>>, Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">sam@lanfranco.net</a>>, Excom NPOC <<a href="mailto:excom@npoc.org" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">excom@npoc.org</a>><br><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Joan and all,</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Here is Paul's response which he said I can share with you:</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Please accept this note as Public Interest Registry’s confirmation that the financial support we offered in 2017 was paid to the Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) with the understanding that it’s leadership would use the funds as it saw fit. The same will be true for 2018 once that invoice is received. If NCUC leadership can administer this year’s support to the benefit of members of either the NCUC or the Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns constituency, so much the better.<span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">As previously noted, Public Interest Registry would prefer to offer its financial support to the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG), and let the NCSG’s leadership use it as it sees fit. Given the NCSG’s lack of infrastructure (bank account, tax ID number), however, we will continue to engage directly with the NCUC via the existing arrangements.<span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Finally, Public Interest Registry is open to directly supporting NPOC or NCUC ad hoc projects that meet our collective interests and needs. We make no promises of support, however, and will need to review any such opportunities on a case by case basis</span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt">.</span></p><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><font color="#000000">For this year, the money will go to NCUC bank account. NCUC EC will decide to open the call for travel support or other opportunities to the NCSG members and its constituencies and decide on travel allocation. NCSG will make an effort to open a bank account, get a Tax ID and come up with the appropriate procedure to allocate the funding for next year and also activate its Finance Committee.</font></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><font color="#000000">Best </font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="gmail-m_-7780855982898463947HOEnZb" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail-m_-7780855982898463947m_-1195187993968886068m_6586779603984088751gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh</font></div></div></div></div></font></span><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div></div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:16 PM Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info">ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Farzaneh,<br>
<br>
I'm quite sure this is the first time I have seen that message from<br>
Paul Diaz - to be sure I just checked my emails for entire May. <br>
<br>
Nor can I find it in ncsg-discuss archive - if someone can, please<br>
point it out. The archive can be found here:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=NCSG-DISCUSS" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=NCSG-DISCUSS</a><br>
<br>
I don't know who you have shared it with before, but clearly lot of<br>
unnecessary grief has been caused because it did *not* reach all the<br>
people it should have.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Tapani<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Jun 26 13:50, farzaneh badii (<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>) wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Dear Raoul,<br>
> <br>
> Please read the copy paste email below from Paul. Which was sent after<br>
> Tapani and Joan sent me the email Tapani mentions and had asked me to<br>
> clarify. Note that Paul's first response which prompted Tapani and Joan to<br>
> seek clarification is deleted from the thread because it was not sent to me<br>
> so I don't know if I can share it publicly. if Tapani and Joan see that<br>
> that email can be shared on a public list please feel free to do so.<br>
> <br>
> After Tapani and Joan email in April, we sought clarification from Paul and<br>
> Paul in his May email has clarified very clearly that 2017 funding was for<br>
> NCUC to be spent as it saw fit and that in 2018, NCUC can administer 2018<br>
> support too. Please read it. I do not want to repeat this again. This was<br>
> shared on NPOC EC as well when Paul sent it to us.<br>
> <br>
> I have shared this multiple times with you and on the NCSG mailing list. If<br>
> you think that there is anything unclear, please seek clarity and advice<br>
> from the funders. I have cc'd NCUC EC and NPOC EC for the sake of<br>
> transparency so that accusations are not taking place behind closed doors<br>
> without people seeing the response, in his email, Paul says clearly that he<br>
> will follow up with Joan. How about Joan seeks clarification from Paul in<br>
> this meeting?<br>
> <br>
> To be very clear, in 2019, no PIR NCSG funding will go to the bank account<br>
> of neither constituencies. it will go to NCSG and NCSG Finance Committee<br>
> as it is speculated in its charter decides on how to allocate across the<br>
> constituencies based on its operating procedures which will be drafted by<br>
> FC and approved by NCSG EC (as the charter says). If NPOC wants direct<br>
> funding from PIR, feel free to approach them.<br>
> <br>
> *From:* Paul Diaz<br>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:57 PM<br>
> *To:* Mueller, Milton L; Badiei, Farzaneh<br>
> *Cc:* Brian Cute<br>
> *Subject:* RE: NCUC Annual Grant<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hi, all<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sorry for the delayed response, it’s been more hectic than usual.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Please accept this note as Public Interest Registry’s confirmation that the<br>
> financial support we offered in 2017 was paid to the Non-Commercial Users<br>
> Constituency (NCUC) with the understanding that it’s leadership would use<br>
> the funds as it saw fit. The same will be true for 2018 once that invoice<br>
> is received. If NCUC leadership can administer this year’s support to the<br>
> benefit of members of either the NCUC or the Not-for-Profit Operational<br>
> Concerns constituency, so much the better.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> As previously noted, Public Interest Registry would prefer to offer its<br>
> financial support to the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG), and let<br>
> the NCSG’s leadership use it as it sees fit. Given the NCSG’s lack of<br>
> infrastructure (bank account, tax ID number), however, we will continue to<br>
> engage directly with the NCUC via the existing arrangements.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Finally, Public Interest Registry is open to directly supporting NPOC or<br>
> NCUC ad hoc projects that meet our collective interests and needs. We make<br>
> no promises of support, however, and will need to review any such<br>
> opportunities on a case by case basis.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Please feel free to share this statement with your NPOC colleagues. I also<br>
> intend to follow up with Joan Kerr on a related clarifying question about<br>
> financial support.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Best, P<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
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