<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the update, Michael! Yep, I guess its both fortunate and unfortunate the merger, but I am sure good things can come out of this ! </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-02-26 11:35 GMT-03:00 Michael Karanicolas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Great. By the way, Bruna, your comment on NCUC participation is well<br>
taken, but I've also just today heard back from RightsCon saying they<br>
want to merge this session in together with one that's been proposed<br>
by Xianhong Hu from UNESCO.<br>
<br>
On the one hand, this may provide a good boost to attendance, and<br>
allow an interesting collaboration opportunity. On the other hand, it<br>
obviously reduces our "control" over the session and its participants.<br>
Still, I'll try to push for more NCUC involvement. Will go out to the<br>
lists with more information shortly.<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com">raquino@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Dear Bruna, Michael<br>
><br>
> Thank you for your comments.<br>
> As soon as all EC finalize their comments on proposals we can get back<br>
> to presenters with the requests and results of evaluation.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Renata<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
> <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Btw, I approve all three CROP requests but I would like for the LAC and<br>
>> Africa ones to have more consistent outreach plans.<br>
>><br>
>> 2018-02-26 10:45 GMT-03:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Renata, one short clarification: Having read all the proposals now I<br>
>>> wanted to make clear that I did not object to any of them.<br>
>>> I just think we could suggest adaptations to both of them - thats why I<br>
>>> had questions with regards to time in the LAC one and outreach in both. If<br>
>>> we asked Ayden to better describe outreach plans in his CROP proposal why<br>
>>> shouldnt we ask Roxanne and Liz ? I find it necessary to clear up my<br>
>>> considerations because (a) I dont think I am going beyond my EC role when I<br>
>>> write them and (b) these members will most likely get their CROP requests<br>
>>> approved and will get to represent NCUC in a forum so we should raise the<br>
>>> bar and make some requirements when it comes to the Constituency<br>
>>> representation.<br>
>>><br>
>>> One question though: were the Africa and LAC proposals approved to the<br>
>>> respective programmes ? You wrote on your email that the LACNIC one was in<br>
>>> provisional acceptance, what about the Africa one?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I would also like all of those who took the time to send the email to the<br>
>>> list supporting both proposals taking the time to suggest outreach ideas.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best,<br>
>>> B.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2018-02-26 10:18 GMT-03:00 Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I vote to approve the CROP LAC LACNIC29 + LACNOG and the CROP AF - Africa<br>
>>>> Internet Summit. Both look good, and I'm pleased that there's been such<br>
>>>> strong collaboration among the community in developing these proposals.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Best,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Michael<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com">raquino@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Answers inline.<br>
>>>>> Short answer: all proposals were sent both to general list and EC list.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> My comments are under each CROP<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> CROP AF - Africa Internet Summit<br>
>>>>>> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008807.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/<wbr>pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-<wbr>February/008807.html</a><br>
>>>>>> Sent date 7Feb<br>
>>>>>> NCUC Session proposal: to be sent until 2March, sent to NCUC-Discuss<br>
>>>>>> and NCUC-EC<br>
>>>>>> CROP Proposer: Liz Orembo<br>
>>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Vote: The applicant doesnt quite describe her outreach plans in her<br>
>>>>>> application: " This time I plan to work with the regional engagement teams<br>
>>>>>> on ICANN sessions, main focus this time will be on NCUC and its role at<br>
>>>>>> ICANN. I'm also planning on sending a presentation proposal. Until 2 March<br>
>>>>>> this can be done. I'll try to build this presentation with NCUC members" -<br>
>>>>>> this feels a little empty. Also her presentation proposal is not listed on<br>
>>>>>> the email, was it approved ?<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> [RAR] I believe when proposer sent this application the details for AIS<br>
>>>>> proposal weren't posted yet. Now they have and she did, sent to regional<br>
>>>>> list, main list and EC and received no objections. However, lots of<br>
>>>>> collaboration in the document<br>
>>>>> Proposal document<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-c6tsMtWCxBDHtbFL9OsGy6Uuz1rzpx2qpgARR4SQbg/edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1-<wbr>c6tsMtWCxBDHtbFL9OsGy6Uuz1rzpx<wbr>2qpgARR4SQbg/edit</a><br>
>>>>> Discussion on regional list Feb 14<br>
>>>>> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-af/2018-February/000256.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/<wbr>pipermail/ncuc-af/2018-<wbr>February/000256.html</a><br>
>>>>> Proposal on main list Feb 19<br>
>>>>> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2018-February/043731.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/<wbr>pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2018-<wbr>February/043731.html</a><br>
>>>>> Proposal on EC list Feb 20<br>
>>>>> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008897.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/<wbr>pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-<wbr>February/008897.html</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> CROP LAC - LACNIC29 + LACNOG<br>
>>>>>> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008806.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/<wbr>pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-<wbr>February/008806.html</a><br>
>>>>>> Sent date 7Feb<br>
>>>>>> NCUC Session proposals: 2<br>
>>>>>> NCUC Session proposal status: provisional acceptance<br>
>>>>>> CROP Proposer: Roxanne John<br>
>>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Vote: Yes with conditions! Presentation proposal looks consistent and<br>
>>>>>> is very good, apart from that 5 min for 3 speakers looks too little time. On<br>
>>>>>> a side note, I would like the applicant to be more active on the general<br>
>>>>>> presentation and less of a presenter or moderator (the proposal doesnt quite<br>
>>>>>> state who will be doing what). I also see no outreach plan such as (a) draft<br>
>>>>>> members, (b) participate on discussions on behalf of ncuc or any other<br>
>>>>>> possibility, the idea of developing outreach with GSE and not the<br>
>>>>>> constituency also seems a little off - Given that the member is from the LAC<br>
>>>>>> region, I would love if she could send her proposal to the list asking for<br>
>>>>>> input.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> [RAR] Proposals were also sent to list and received comments. I am<br>
>>>>> co-author of proposals.<br>
>>>>> Note that these proposals are only flash talk readouts of reports of<br>
>>>>> work NCUC did at IGF2017 and will do at WSIS.<br>
>>>>> Proposer will indicate, through her readout, what were the issues<br>
>>>>> discussed by NCUC at these venues and who did that discussion.<br>
>>>>> Also there is an idea of remote presentation by key policy people in<br>
>>>>> NCUC via a short video.<br>
>>>>> If the proposal is approved the arrangements for this will be made.<br>
>>>>> Proposal document (IGF2017 is the concrete one right now as we are<br>
>>>>> waiting for WSIS results)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iHn-npOfO4Q6WmBP3a5QU3A-rDoGiSaAlh2d5Vcgufo/edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1iHn-<wbr>npOfO4Q6WmBP3a5QU3A-<wbr>rDoGiSaAlh2d5Vcgufo/edit</a><br>
>>>>> Proposal sent to list<br>
>>>>> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2018-February/043619.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/<wbr>pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2018-<wbr>February/043619.html</a><br>
>>>>> Proposal sent to EC list<br>
>>>>> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008806.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/<wbr>pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-<wbr>February/008806.html</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> CROP NA - Rightscon<br>
>>>>>> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2017-December/008643.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/<wbr>pipermail/ncuc-ec/2017-<wbr>December/008643.html</a><br>
>>>>>> Sent date 17 Dec<br>
>>>>>> NCUC Session proposal: 1<br>
>>>>>> NCUC Session proposal status: Accepted<br>
>>>>>> CROP Proposer: Michael Karanicolas<br>
>>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Vote: Yes! This is the most developed CROP proposal of them all but one<br>
>>>>>> point for consideration would be to include other NCUC member in attendance<br>
>>>>>> both in the Panel composition and in the management of the booth - but for<br>
>>>>>> this we probably to have wait for the RightsCon funding requests to come<br>
>>>>>> back.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> best,<br>
>>>>>> b<br>
>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> <a href="tel:%2B55%2061%2099252-6512" value="+5561992526512">+55 61 99252-6512</a><br>
>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>>>>>> @boomartins<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="tel:%2B55%2061%2099252-6512" value="+5561992526512">+55 61 99252-6512</a><br>
>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>>> @boomartins<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Bruna Martins dos Santos<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="tel:%2B55%2061%2099252-6512" value="+5561992526512">+55 61 99252-6512</a><br>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br>
>> @boomartins<br>
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