<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Here is the complete NCUC response to the public comments on its bylaws. I agreed to add a footnote and clarify the word "chapter" and change Constitution to Mission and Principles. Added Kathy and Milton here our veterans to see if they want to object to any of the changes or have better ideas. If not I will send this report to Benedetta tomorrow </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i1TlvGnR8hBpW7BAjuXOYFMqOeSgzPK9Rgg047hkoLc/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i1TlvGnR8hBpW7BAjuXOYFMqOeSgzPK9Rgg047hkoLc/edit?usp=sharing</a></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Mike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>I agree.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Oct 7, 2017, at 4:04 AM, David Cake <<a href="mailto:dave@davecake.net" target="_blank">dave@davecake.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I agree with these comments. The Constitution should not be mentioning other groups, resources, etc. We have operating procedures for that, that are more adaptive and easier to change. <div><br></div><div>The change of wording to be more compatible le with the bylaws is worth considering, but makes no real difference at all. </div><div><br></div><div>But we should thank them for their comments. I think they were intended well. </div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div><div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 7 Oct 2017, at 4:16 am, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_420013851730585372Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We have not received many substantive comments on our bylaws by one by the Biz constituency. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am preparing a response but:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. We know about the typo they are referring to and it will be fixed </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. We specifically discussed the term "chapter" in our constituency and concluded that it should remain as is and there is no better replacement for it. We could do a foot note that we specifically mean ISOC chapters.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3. I don't think it's necessary to say mention that NCSG has two constitutency and provide a link to NCSG website because: 1. NCSG wiki link might change we can't update the bylaws. 2. NCSG has two constituencies at the moment it might have more constituencies in the future. We don't see the need to make that change and we have mentioned that NCUC is a constituency of NCSG. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">4. EC and appointed member comment: I think they are referring to the paragraph that stipulates that if an EC member resigns or is removed less than 6 months to the election then EC can appoint a replacement until the election. I disagree with BC that we need to change this provision. When the duration is shorter than 6 months it serves the region better to have an EC member. Our members have voted on this and we keep it. We also suggest that to bring more democratic values to their processes, BC considers term limits with no exceptions. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">5. Their first comment: they want us to change Constitution to Mission and Principles, to make it more aligned with other bylaws etc. "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Accordingly, we suggest re-framing Section I. as “Mission and Principles.” </span>"</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">6. As to this: "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">There are also certain important resources available to the NCUC that we recommend referencing in the charter. For instance, it may be helpful to note that the NCUC has an independent part-time Secretariat that assists on matters of voting and elections, and the ICANN Ombudsman is a available to provide input on challenging decisions.</span>"<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">While we have not mentioned the Secretariat (which has changed to full time and it doesn't solely cover our work and it's for NCSG as a whole) we have enumerated multiple resources available to NCUC in our operating procedures doc. Hence we don't see the need to change this as suggested.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have a meeting with Benedetta at 15.00 UTC on Monday. If you would like to join and discuss the bylaws you are welcome to. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div class="m_420013851730585372gmail-m_-4717333788403438060gmail-m_-2155447733599159518gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
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