<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Renata,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-13 9:08 GMT+09:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Rafik<br>
<br>
At this point, I think it's important we (EC, PC, NCSG...) accompany<br>
the work of Onboarding program but I have in mind this is the 1st<br>
edition of this initiative and it's a joint effort by ICANN and the<br>
community.<br>
So I'd not, at this time, encourage implementation of 1 single data<br>
mapping of members.<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I didn't suggest onboarding program to collect data. My point was that we have some initiative to let new members more familiar with ICANN and NCSG. afterwards we can have survey that can collect meaningful data. collecting data is implicitly done by NCUC here not other party e.g ICANN.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think it's fine that the program has its own form and dataset.<br>
As it was announced, members who have been around for a while but want<br>
to receive the materials can do so, I signed up for that.<br>
And we can tap in on the data collected anytime too.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I cannot talk about onboarding and I have no idea about their plan to get feedback. again I only indicated about the fact we have some ongoing intiatives to brief members.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
When the Onboarding team presented their work to EC, it was pretty<br>
clear that this would be an evolving initiative so maybe in 6 months<br>
or 1 year we can maybe review it again.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>again I cannot comment about onboarding program details. l was aware about such program since marrakech meeting few specifics were shared since. I know that Kathy, Ayden and Louise worked on the content of material to be sent but not aware how it will be managed. anyway, it was not my focus in my response.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
So yes, the question is a bit odd but I understand that some members<br>
may want entry level leadership positions and it's important to know<br>
them.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think we should manage expectations carefully and better to ask them later when they have better sense of what participating means. it would be even more effective and customized in term of mentorship. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Anyway, I think this can be a dialogue to have w/ Onboarding team,<br>
probably at next NCUC policy session.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think there is misunderstanding about my comment: I only mentioned onboarding program as an example of initiatve to get members "trained" among many others done informally. My point was simply: we shouldn't ask about leadersip interest in the beginning, postpone such question after members get familiar to ICANN, NCSG and policies (let's say after 6 months) , such question can be asked in separate survey that can be administrated to all members if we want. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I'm interested too in the data NCSG is collecting and whether<br>
constituencies will have access to it or give inputs to the form. This<br>
can be too a part of the conversation.<br>
<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>for now, it contains only the data coming from NCSG membership application forms and that DB is accessible to constituencies. that is the one used for NCSG election check-in process. there is no additional data yet other than from application form. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
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On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
><br>
> I found that question a little bit strange. I thought we are suggesting<br>
> mentorship opportunity for those who want to be active in working groups etc<br>
> since we need more and more participation. I don't think we should ask new<br>
> members who have just joined if they want to become leaders but instead we<br>
> should ask if they want to get actively involved in working groups for<br>
> example which that will led for those who commit to a leadership position<br>
> (running for election).<br>
> Maybe rewording it to "Do you want to get involved in policy development?"<br>
> or something similar.<br>
><br>
> the survey can only get some basic useful information about the new members<br>
> at that stage. But since we have onboarding program now and other policy<br>
> activities updates we can wait for a little with another survey to ask them<br>
> more detailed questions, when they have a better understanding of ICANN and<br>
> NCSG work.<br>
><br>
> Btw the membership application form already includes some questions about<br>
> the reasons for an applicant who wants to join NCSG, that can be also used<br>
> to know more about him/her. Since we are also managing membership within the<br>
> new civircrm solution, why not managing survey there directly ? we are<br>
> creating members profiles in that system and there are some features (to be<br>
> set) we can explore that option instead of having google doc and scattered<br>
> info about membership. When I started working on getting new membership<br>
> database for NCSG few years ago, one purpose was to get some analytics later<br>
> by knowing more about members (more than just contact info and country).<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Rafik<br>
><br>
> 2017-09-11 23:23 GMT+09:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com">raquino@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks!<br>
>><br>
>> I noticed the 1st responder did not answer the last question. Given<br>
>> the question and the replies, I think this would be an obligatory?<br>
>><br>
>> Do you want to be a leader? Yes / No / Not now<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Maryam Bakoshi<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Hi Renata,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > You can find the responses here:<br>
>> > <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19ZiaJn68BhE7nNbYjrlKArcUcx5J6UCyTIuRQd5KNHY/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>spreadsheets/d/<wbr>19ZiaJn68BhE7nNbYjrlKArcUcx5J6<wbr>UCyTIuRQd5KNHY/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Many thanks,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator<br>
>> > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
>> > S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: <a href="tel:%2B44%207737698036" value="+447737698036">+44 7737698036</a><br>
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>> > From: NCUC-EC <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.<wbr>org</a>> on behalf of Renata<br>
>> > Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > Date: Monday, September 11, 2017 at 2:53 PM<br>
>> > To: "Exec. Comm" <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
>> > Subject: [Ext] [NCUC-EC] members survey<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ncuc.org_new-2Dmembers-2Dsurvey_&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=vPX-2f4aC16wXW8-2qB3aIUGxTDd8fAg6RNVw3Xm-f8&s=Me1dbYrSwBPlfuaEFoo1Et9LACplvUl7NpfeIsP4M3E&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://urldefense.proofpoint.<wbr>com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.<wbr>ncuc.org_new-2Dmembers-<wbr>2Dsurvey_&d=DwIGaQ&c=<wbr>FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6<wbr>sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=<wbr>1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExH<wbr>iVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=vPX-<wbr>2f4aC16wXW8-<wbr>2qB3aIUGxTDd8fAg6RNVw3Xm-f8&s=<wbr>Me1dbYrSwBPlfuaEFoo1Et9LACplvU<wbr>l7NpfeIsP4M3E&e=</a><br>
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