<div dir="ltr">Sounds good! Thanks.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 5:32 PM, farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We will hold off on public statement. It's just that Niels sent it to the mailing list before I told him about the EC decision not to include the public link. But we won't make it public (i.e. put it on website) depending on the response.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-4414897234088342234gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Michael Karanicolas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@law-democracy.org" target="_blank">michael@law-democracy.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Letter looks done to me, no? The first page looks great - can just send that now, right? <div><br></div><div>And then I thought we agreed to hold off on our public statement, and maybe release tomorrow depending on if and what response we get? Am I misunderstanding?</div></div><div class="m_-4414897234088342234HOEnZb"><div class="m_-4414897234088342234h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM, farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">So this is a matter of urgency. If there are no objections within the EC then we can send it but first we have to accept the changes and comments. I am doing that now.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="m_-4414897234088342234m_-6474678228820696309HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-4414897234088342234m_-6474678228820696309m_-9183742763299237959gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div></font></span><div><div class="m_-4414897234088342234m_-6474678228820696309h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Michael Karanicolas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@law-democracy.org" target="_blank">michael@law-democracy.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sorry - has it been finalized yet? <div><br></div><div>The letter looks finished, and looks good to me, but we should probably get the statement into its final form before we approve it as an NCUC statement, no? Still looks like a work in progress to me.</div></div><div class="m_-4414897234088342234m_-6474678228820696309m_-9183742763299237959HOEnZb"><div class="m_-4414897234088342234m_-6474678228820696309m_-9183742763299237959h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 5:03 PM, farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks Niels. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We have been discussing this with EC and we can approve it as an NCUC statement. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Farzaneh </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="m_-4414897234088342234m_-6474678228820696309m_-9183742763299237959m_4572878328055648602HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-4414897234088342234m_-6474678228820696309m_-9183742763299237959m_4572878328055648602m_-1554299123750450100gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div></font></span><div><div class="m_-4414897234088342234m_-6474678228820696309m_-9183742763299237959m_4572878328055648602h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Niels ten Oever <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org" target="_blank">lists@digitaldissidents.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
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This morning the ICANN VP for Security and IT published a blogpost which<br>
appeared in this mornings newsletter, as well as on ICANNs website<br>
concerning the Dark Web.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-dark-web-the-land-of-hidden-services" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/blo<wbr>g/the-dark-web-the-land-of-hid<wbr>den-services</a><br>
<br>
A number of us got together and drafted an email to the author to give<br>
him an opportunity to correct the falsehoods that are stated in the blog.<br>
<br>
We have two options:<br>
<br>
1. Send the letter on behalf of the NCUC<br>
2. Sign the letter in your personal capacities.<br>
<br>
Let's discuss it here, but feel free to already sign (as a fallback option).<br>
<br>
You can find the draft letter here:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xB19ycvHPH9TagLjEiAnOpbkLbx9jdD49y3CAKVLoac/edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1xB19ycvHPH9TagLjEiAnOpbk<wbr>Lbx9jdD49y3CAKVLoac/edit</a><br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
Niels<br>
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Niels ten Oever<br>
Head of Digital<br>
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Article 19<br>
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