<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I understand you Farzy, go ahead, really do it, it's a good idea to offer a guidance, also count me in to help on this case.<div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Em 06/09/2016, às 11:56, farzaneh badii escreveu:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Joao, <div><br></div><div>I am really in favor of capacity building , I know where you are coming from, and we should plan that but then again the travel policy does not make Bonface or Benjamin or Hago eligible. Look below, is there a working group they are involved with? are they commenting on public comments we post to the list? </div><ol style="border:0px;font-stretch:inherit;font-size:14px;line-height:22px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px 1.5em 1.5em 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 2em;vertical-align:baseline;list-style-position:outside;color:rgb(85,85,85)"><li style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Are actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC’s work, for example constituency governance, NCUC/NCSG policy discussions, or GNSO or cross-community working groups;</li><li style="border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Need to be at a given meeting because the above mentioned work will be advanced there;</li></ol><div><font color="#555555" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:22px">We could ask them to become active and we seriously consider their next application. I offer to give them guidance to make it easier for them to become active. </span></font></div><div><font color="#555555" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:22px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#555555" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:22px">Best </span></font></div><div><font color="#555555" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:22px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#555555" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:22px"><br></span></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 September 2016 at 16:49, João Carlos Rebello Caribé <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:caribe@entropia.blog.br" target="_blank">caribe@entropia.blog.br</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Farzy,<div><br></div><div>Define active?</div><div><br></div><div>It's a subjective value, active means participate on the discussions, on the meetings, projects and tasks, also someone would be active out in their local "bubble", active means be a multiplicator, a personal hub, a decision maker, a opinion maker. It's not easy to fair evaluate this.</div><div><br></div><div>However we can think about what the supporter can add to NCUC community, the right question is: Why you deserve to be supported by NCUC to travel to meeting, which return you will bring ? </div><div><br></div><div>I'm in a delicate position since Bonface and Benjamin are two members I brought to Fellow and to NCUC, as Renata too, so I observing Benjamin away from IG issues, in other hand Bonface is very active, even his limited budget.</div><div><br></div><div>My final suggestion is to support Michael and Bonface, I'm sure he will bring return to NCUC.</div><div><br></div><div>[]s</div><div>Joao Carlos Caribé</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br><div><div>Em 06/09/2016, às 11:34, farzaneh badii escreveu:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Thanks Milton. Joao, Grace, let us know ASAP, we need to approve travel support. Getting visa is not easy. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 September 2016 at 16:30, Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 6, 2016 2:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Joao Carlos Caribe <<a href="mailto:caribe@entropia.blog.br" target="_blank">caribe@entropia.blog.br</a>>; Exec. Comm <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>>; Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span></p><div><div><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] Review NCUC Travel Support Applications<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><br></div>
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</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p>Does everyone agree that we only support Michael for this round and tell the other applicants to become active and apply next time?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">On 6 Sep 2016 1:56 a.m., "Rafik Dammak" <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">I see a Michael as strong case because his involvement in workstream and clear interest on that (e.g. DIDP), also being the representative of an organisational member like Center for Law and Democracy which would make sense to engage more.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">2016-09-06 7:12 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p>Hi Milton <u></u><u></u></p><p>We have to be quick on this because of visas etc. Who do you suggest we take on?
<u></u><u></u></p><p>Best<u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="color:#888888">Farzaneh <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">$4000 is a limit, not a requirement. If we do not think we are getting something valuable from spending
it, then let’s not spend it. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I am not convinced that we need to support all three of these people</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_4959259413272881495_m_-1324384768612139992_m_-4508107480004294094_m_-67554221618952"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>João Carlos Rebello Caribé<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 5, 2016 5:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><br>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Agree, good suggestion.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">They are requesting:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Benjamin - U$ 1500 - 34% of total<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Bonface - U$ 1000 - 23% of total<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Michael - U$ 1920 - 43% of total<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Total is U$ 4420<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">I suggest to rate proportional of the U$ 420,00 as is:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Benjamin - U$ 1500 - 150 = U$ 1350<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Bonface - U$ 1000 - 90 = U$ 910<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Michael - U$ 1920 - 180 = U$ 1740<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Total is U$ 4000<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Em 05/09/2016, às 08:41, Rafik Dammak escreveu:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">maybe as workable suggestion, we can review if we can provide partial funding to Michael, Benjamin and Bonface.
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NETmundial Initiative Counselor<br>
ICANN NCUC Executive Committee member<br>
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