<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I would go with Wednesday or Friday but we need to get all things ready this week, hopefully sending the announcement by the weekend </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-26 20:00 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Milton and Rafik,<div><br></div><div>Rafik I think we need to change the timeline regarding the bylaw (we are running behind and making changes). I don't think we can send it today. Perhaps Monday or Wednesday next week. But we really have to this time respect the deadline. So lets work on it together everyone and approve it to be posted to the members next week. </div><div><br></div><div>going to Milton's comments in line</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On 25 August 2016 at 16:51, Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I have now seen the new Google doc. Before I start messing up what is already a very messy document, let me see if there is some support from other EC members
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<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Policy Committee. The current policy committee is dysfunctional because responsibility is too diffuse, and one can see why by reading the charter. “The
policy committee shall be chaired by constituency appointees…” No single chair, left open. Also, it is not clear who appoints the chair. We need to make one, single person responsible for managing the public comment and policy development process within NCUC,
and we need to have that person appointed or elected in an accountable way. My question is: who should appoint/elect that person – the EC? The members? The GNSO Councilors? The chair? I would favor either the EC or the Chair.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Milton I think here you are talking about NCSG policy committee. Do we have an NCUC PC? If not I think it's a good idea to have one.</div><div>The chair (if I have gotten it right) is elected by the appointees to the PC at NCSG. I think it's good to have public comment and PDP person at NCUC and EC should be able to appoint them. <br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>we put provision to reactivate the NCUC PC and by NCSG charter we are expected as constituency to make policy position. the EC is not for such role and PC is the right place for that.</div><div>with regarding to who is in charge, I understand Milton concern and the basic idea is to get someone who do the job and is accountable (not about the title). aligned with other similar provisions, EC should do the appointments. in term of procedure/action, the EC can make (re-)appointments starting from the election. we need to make clear that the person would be appointed from within the PC or from outside ?</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">
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<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Ed Morris proposed some tightening up of the membership eligibility rules in the wake of the Peter Green situation. Have those changes been incorporated
into these bylaws? It looks to me like they were included.if so, good, we don’t need to do anything more.</span></p></div></div></blockquote></span><div>I have included them </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">In III.G., I suggested adding something giving the EC the authority to review and expel members whose status has changed in a way that no longer makes
them eligible for membership.</span></p></div></div></blockquote></span><div>ok </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Who is the “Executive Coordinator” reference on page 9?</span></p></div></div></blockquote></span><div>Sorry I am not sure I can find what you are referring to. can you hilight it on the doc. </div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Suggested adding something about ballot review. An earlier part of the EC description says the EC reviews the ballot, but later on under part VI Voting
it sounds like the chair does it all unilaterally</span></p></div></div></blockquote></span><div>ok, somehow I cant find your comment in the doc but I agree. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>we can make clear where EC should review Chair decisions and where s/he can make decisions unilaterally. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">It isn’t clear from the charter who or what process actually sets the dues. It says
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">“</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f4e79;background:white">On
an annual basis, the Chair will consult with the Executive Committee regarding the appropriate level for dues.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">”
Does that mean the chair can set them unilaterally after consulting with EC? Maybe EC should approve.</span></p></div></div></blockquote></span><div>I agree. EC should approve and we should clarfiy the text accordingly. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>we can add a text to make this optional not a mandatory yearly action (while of course the EC approve the dues). </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f4e79">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>farzaneh badii<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Exec. Comm <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] Bylaws with Track changes<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>farzaneh badii<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:24 PM<br>
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